Half-baked psychosis theory

Another Skype, uncut and uncensored for to produce wonderful orgasm of the mind.

[15:34:22] Crack-addled hobo: Here’s one that I’ve thought through most of the way. Hypnopompia is the key to explaining all psychosis.
[15:34:38] CAH: Here’s the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnopompic
[15:35:40] CAH: Not a great explanation. A lot of people hallucinate in this state.
[15:35:53] Random internet nutjob: hmm quite interesting
[15:36:07] CAH: http://www.sleepassociation.org/index.php?p=hallucinationsduringsleep
[15:36:08] RIN: so maybe by extension frontal lobe disfunction is a kay to psychosis?
[15:36:48] CAH: Yeah, the frontal lobe is depressed while the amygdala is active, so a person has irrational fear and no input processing.
[15:37:06] CAH: So the mind creates scary hallucinations to make sense of the fear.
[15:38:24] CAH: Most people hallucinate approaching spiders (sometimes giant spiders), or hobos with knives, or other viscerally scary stuff.
[15:38:51] CAH: I saw one lady say she saw a homeless-looking guy standing over her baby’s crib.
[15:39:01] RIN: yikes
[15:39:34] CAH: It’s often accompanied by paralysis because the brain hasn’t stopped dreaming yet, so the motor skills shutoff is still active.
[15:39:54] CAH: Usually lasts about five to ten seconds.
[15:40:29] RIN: so implication is sleep disruption by modernity leads to widespread psychosis?
[15:40:37] CAH: If the motor skills weren’t shut off, we’d be flailing around in our sleep, kind of like the way dogs run in their sleep.
[15:40:39] RIN: and paralyzed frontal lobe function?
[15:41:49] CAH: I think that any sort of degenerative cognitive decline has a chance of hampering the part of the brain that keeps us from filtering perception.
[15:42:10] CAH: Schizo is degenerative, and Alzheimer’s sometimes causes hallucinations too.
[15:42:40] CAH: Although moreso schizo, I think due to racial correlation with better visuospatial skills.
[15:43:29] CAH: Further, schizo-type symptoms are stereotypically seen as a right-wing nut sort of thing.
[15:43:44] CAH: And conservatives tend to have better-developed amygdalas.
[15:44:18] CAH: Some people with hypnopompia also hallucinate about government cameras in their rooms, and such.
[15:45:35] CAH: Some people also hallucinate about abstract objects like cylinders, spheres, cubes, various prisms…
[15:47:25] CAH: And I occasionally dream about that sort of stuff right before waking. I think we’re right to categorize schizo as “walking dreamers”. They probably lack the shutoff switch due to degeneration, poor sleep, or something else. The type of hallucination probably depends on the presence of occipital buns, amygdala activation, and maybe other factors.
[15:47:54] RIN: probably throw drug use in there somewhere too
[15:48:18] RIN: yeah when i’m sleep deprived i start seeing lots of things that aren’t there…animals in particular
[15:48:29] RIN: happens when i’m awake anyway, but much moreso when sleepy
[15:50:01] CAH: But your brain usually corrects you upon further inspection, because the sense data contradicts the hallucination and destroys the delusion. Hypnopompic hallucinations often vanish when they’re supposed to be touching you, but you don’t feel anything. The delusion is shattered because it becomes unbelievable.
[15:52:27] RIN: what line of inquiry brought you to this?
[15:52:44] CAH: Sudden revelation.
[15:53:12] CAH: I already knew about hypnopompia, schizo, and Alzheimer’s, and something clicked yesterday.
[15:53:49] CAH: I noticed that a certain percentage of all degenerative diseases produce hallucinations.
[15:56:18] RIN: do you have a lot of alzheimer’s patients at the nursing home?
[15:56:44] CAH: Yup. I hadn’t known before that Alzheimer’s occasionally causes hallucinations.
[15:57:22] CAH: Cro mags seem to be far more prone to that disease.
[15:57:32] CAH: Whereas thals tend more schizo.
[15:58:43] RIN: hmm that’s comforting
[15:58:49] RIN: alzheimer’s scares the crap out of me


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6 Responses to Half-baked psychosis theory

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  2. Heaviside says:

    It’s a big mistake to conflate day-dreaming and sleep induced dreams/hypnopompia. They are completely different.

    When I’m sleep deprived I get a lot of nonsensical internal chatter and have difficulty concentrating.

    One of my grandfathers may have Alzheimer’s. He is hard to type, though.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >It’s a big mistake to conflate day-dreaming and sleep induced dreams/hypnopompia. They are completely different.

      I don’t think we’ve made that mistake here. RIM was referring to the sort of hallucination that accompanies extreme sleep deprivation. Back in the days when I’d stay awake three days in a row, I had a rule that hallucinations lasting five seconds or more meant I had to stop what I was doing and take a nap.

  3. Vod says:

    Hallucinated giant spiders are much scarier than real giant spiders for some reason.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      Good observation.

      Reason: When you hallucinate, the primal fear exists prior to the spider. Amygdala is going nuts anyway, the spider is merely a post-facto rationalization. When you see a real giant spider, your emotional reaction is probably more measured and practical, unless your amygdala overloads easily.

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