Repost: How the frontal lobe contributes to IQ

I figure I’ll probably reference this later, which makes no sense if nobody here can read it. Plus, this will remind me to do the parts about integration of major lobes.


Most of what we call IQ in the modern day sits in the frontal lobe as verbal IQ: a combination of nuance in literal communication (that is, fluidity of associative recall with respect to words in reading, writing, listening, and speaking), and executive function. Think of these as two parts of a whole- the executive function is like the logical breadboard and the “literalism” bit is the sensors and actuators which interpret incoming signals into “meaning” and transform “meanings” from the breadboard into words that seem likely to communicate the correct idea to another person (according to shared associations- “Holocaust” has denotative association “German genocide of Jews, etc., circa 1940-1945” and various connotative associations like “bad”, “immoral”, “hate”, mental pictures of boxcars from shared education system, etc.).

Now it is hopefully obvious why I have begun to describe measured 130 IQ as the ballpark lowest value for “the ability to understand and follow directions”. Without strong function in the ability to read, understand, and follow the directions of an IQ test, the probability that someone will score above 130 is virtually nil and practically negligible. This is even more true if the test is timed, because all else being equal someone who can quickly read and understand a nonverbal test item will have longer to complete it and make fewer mistakes due to reading comprehension errors, and therefore score higher on the nonverbal portions.

This must be distinguished from nonverbal communication, which requires common instinctual responses. Aspies excel at literal communication from an early age and, contrary to popular conception, have excellent associative faculties in the frontal lobe for communicating nuance via connotative associations. But many such connotative associations are formed with respect to instinctive responses, and if these responses are different then the association will not be shared. An NT might see this picture and feel a positive response:

In fact, we have to assume the instinctive NT response is positive because if the instincts agreed with the verbal consensus (“dreadful behavior!”) these shock culture folks wouldn’t be making so much money. So even though we hear people lamenting this behavior, the fact that it sells implies that people want to see this sort of thing. (I would guess that, given plausible deniability, they would also emulate this behavior because these pop icons are considered “successful” and people emulate behaviors of perceived successful people. But that is speculation because I am very different from most people and therefore cannot trust my emotional projections.)

So in practice we have aspies and NTs verbally agreeing that the behavior of pop stars is reprehensible, but aspies are stating their instinctive response to the behavior whereas NTs are misrepresenting their true feelings in order to avoid social stigma. This happens often enough that an effective cultural divide is created between the connotations favored by aspies and those favored by NTs. It is readily observed that STEM folks have predictable tastes in entertainment: Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, etc. Whereas NTs consider these particular things as niche.

Everything for which NTs lack an instictive response, like STEM subjects, aspies find understandable because they are using the same vocabulary as everyone else. But every subject for which NTs have instinctive interest, and therefore different connotations, will be couched in terms that mean different things to the two sets of people. It just so happens that NTs care a great deal about how people behave. Thus after a while, aspies will tend to conclude that “people just don’t make sense”. It is because NTs seem to approach the subject senselessly. This belief is a local maximum in terms of adaptiveness because it is simple, socially acceptable, and generally doesn’t cause unbearable trouble; most aspies get stuck here. But people do make sense- it’s just harder if you’re taking NTs according to what they say, as you understand it.

Hence the “red pill” movement of “realtalkers” like Roissy. These people are simply talking about people science in terms that aspies can understand.

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34 Responses to Repost: How the frontal lobe contributes to IQ

  1. Heaviside says:

    A good use of verbal nuance is thinking long and hard about how to put together the most outrageous combination of words possible.

    Also, the only good thing about Star Wars is the cutaway books.

    • Heaviside says:

      I like to imagine that Hitler would have liked cutaway drawings.

      • Aeoli Pera says:

        Sorry, but how likely is it that a TM likes cutaways?

      • Heaviside says:

        You should really reconsider your opinion of Hitler.

      • Heaviside says:

        Look, I’m not asking you to like Hitler. I don’t think there is strong evidence that he practiced occultism, other than the shades of the occult which propaganda and mass psychology are intrinsically afflicted with. Hitler had high social status and was sexually attractive. The way Vox’s commentariat uses the term “Gamma” is so loose it basically means “outgroup/person I don’t like”. The whole idea of the “SSMV hierarchy” is deeply flawed.

        • Aeoli Pera says:

          >Hitler had high social status and was sexually attractive.

          That’s a fair criticism. He was Gamma before, and then hit his stride later.

          > The way Vox’s commentariat uses the term “Gamma” is so loose it basically means “outgroup/person I don’t like”.

          None of my business.

          >The whole idea of the “SSMV hierarchy” is deeply flawed.

          I think you are over-reacting because world historical figures tend to be exceptional. The categories fit for at least 95% of whites, off the top of my head.

      • Heaviside says:

        Other terms that function similarly to “Gamma” are “Gnostic” and “Narcissist”.

      • Heaviside says:

        I believe that Hitler said what he meant and meant what he said, and on that basis I don’t think it is appropriate to label him a pagan. A nation is a pagan entity, so Hitler was deeply pagan in the sense that fate of nations was his primary focus, but he didn’t say anything about theology. I think he had a notion of God that was deeply felt but vague and abstract, and one that he therefore didn’t view as necessarily incompatible with Christianity. I also think he had some ingrained Catholic sentiments from his childhood even though he said that he wasn’t a Catholic. He just wasn’t a very religion-centric thinker so he let Rosenberg and Himmler indulge their own ideas which he saw as somewhat crankish and self-indulgent, but Hitler was tolerant of cranks(one of his unique strengths). His obsession was geopolitics and history. Jung said that Hitler was possessed by the spirit of Wotan, which makes some sense, but being possessed by a pagan god wouldn’t necessarily make you a believer in any explicit pagan doctrine, which he probably wasn’t. In general, Hitler is just not an easy person to categorize, however the vulgar atheists and Christians, who have made a pastime of tossing the question of his religious affiliation around like a hot potato, never seem to take heed of that difficulty.

        • Aeoli Pera says:

          >I believe that Hitler said what he meant and meant what he said, and on that basis I don’t think it is appropriate to label him a pagan.

          I didn’t say he was pagan.

      • Heaviside says:

        >I think you are over-reacting because world historical figures tend to be exceptional.

        No, I think there are many criticisms that can be made of the SMP.

        https://collapseofman.wordpress.com/2014/08/31/strictly-for-hardcore-aspergoids/

        There is a term for this in Marxism, and it is “reification”:

        “The essence of commodity-structure has often been pointed out. Its basis is that a relation between people takes on the character of a thing and thus acquires a ‘phantom objectivity’, an autonomy that seems so strictly rational and all-embracing as to conceal every trace of its fundamental nature: the relation between people.” — Georg Lukacs

        Through this process of reification, the illusion that a man has an intrinsic sexual attractiveness/sexual market value is created. On the contrary, no man is intrinsically “alpha” or “beta” or any other thing, these are just labels that give a false objective reality to a purely subjective and transitory phenomenon.

        Prior to the advent of sexual capitalism, there were no “alphas” or “betas,” because society on the whole lacked this dimension of sexual competition. Without the sexual marketplace there could be no sexual price discovery and therefore prices and values did not exist.

        It is totally foolish to try to apply notion of SMV to people who lived in times and places where there was no sexual marketplace as we know it today.

        The whole notion of “SMV” is intrinsically degrading, dehumanizing, and alienating to man and it can be abolished. It will be abolished.

        Lets get down to brass tacks. In my home state of California the U.S. military only maintains two divisions. Surely there are enough unattractive men in the state that we can mobilize a rebel force able to take on two divisions, and there are plenty of unattractive men in the military who would be willing to defect. We just need a nucleus of fanatics who don’t think the idea is totally stupid who can recruit others for the insurrection. This is a very scaleable revolution.

        >I didn’t say he was pagan.

        I thought you said it somewhere else.

        • Aeoli Pera says:

          >No, I think there are many criticisms that can be made of the SMP.

          Sure. Hence my immediate acceptance of Koanic’s improved system.

          If this blog is not hardcore aspergoid then I don’t know what is.

          Re: the contents of the link, what I have observed is that there is a reason that classification systems for people (Slytherin, Ravenclaw, etc.) are chick crack. This is how girls think at a fundamental level and if nothing else it certainly helps you pay attention.

          Your criticism of SMV could be turned around and applied to any correlation ever. So either you’re misunderstanding the concept or speaking rhetorically, and I suspect the latter.

          >The whole notion of “SMV” is intrinsically degrading, dehumanizing, and alienating to man and it can be abolished. It will be abolished.

          Not any more degrading than other general factor-type observations that people make constantly to get by.

          In short what I’m reading is a screed against pattern-matching. Well, I’m hooked on pattern-matching and I’m not stopping.

          >Lets get down to brass tacks. In my home state of California the U.S. military only maintains two divisions. Surely there are enough unattractive men in the state that we can mobilize a rebel force able to take on two divisions, and there are plenty of unattractive men in the military who would be willing to defect. We just need a nucleus of fanatics who don’t think the idea is totally stupid who can recruit others for the insurrection. This is a very scaleable revolution.

          We? “We” are approximately five people whose ideas are so far removed from the mainstream that we alienate white nationalists.

          >I thought you said it somewhere else.

          I may have, I’m not usually precise. But the “occult” thing in particular is from a Constance Cumbey book long ago. Must have been 2004 I read that one.

      • Koanic says:

        While this is epic Heaviside, I think you’re wrong re novelty of sexual market. The sexual market operates at a slower pace but is still quite real in Pride and Prejudice.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      I’m making the lightsaber noise right now to prove you wrong.

  2. Lazer says:

    I talk better when I walk. Ive also found that if I need to have a serious man to man wih someone a long solo bike ride does wonders. Helps me put together the necessary spit fire to put the neurocrazy idiot in thier proper place.

  3. Lazer says:

    Walking increases frontal lobe activation. Explains the massive foreheads in the Amud strain.

  4. Sam says:

    How come Jews have slanted heads in the front and supposedly less frontal lobe space and are verbally excellent. As opposed to this guy, Andrew Jackson, with mucho frontal lobes?

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  7. Edenist whackjob says:

    Verbal intelligence seems to be an object of disparagement in our community. People seem to associate it with Jews and women. But think about it: how can you transfer your mental picture to another human? How can you make different parts of your brain sync up? There must be language involved. Analog needs to go digital to talk to a different kind of analog. So, think of verbal/linguistic as the intelligence of encoding/synchronization.

    (Of course, our objects of derision are the types who use language to encode essentially trivia, malice and nonsense but make it sound like truth, justice and art. Like ripping a Miley Cyrus CD to the highest FLAC encoding and playing it through gold-plates wires.)

    For an example of someone with high verbal intelligence and super-high kinesthetic intelligence, ie someone who uses language to effectively communicate, look at Ido Portal. He created what he calls a language of movement, with 1200 “words”. He’s taken his genius level of something unspoken – moving – and made it encodeable so someone like me can get excited about it.

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