Rant: pathological altruism vs. virtue signaling

The Alt-Right is an adaptive ideology, but not a realistic one. It’s NRx’s retarded younger brother. But it works because retards actually get off their asses and do shit. One day the pedantic older brother started lecturing on how everything bad in America today is the fault of 15th-century Puritans, and while the little brother was unable to follow the Hegelian dialectic process the words “pathological altruism” managed to stick in his microcephalic craw. He tried sounding them out for a while, and found that they sounded funny when he burped them. He made these mouth sounds at his parents in front of their Beltway friends and found immense pleasure at their annoyance. It was even better than “kikes”, which had cost him his Xbox for a week.

Thus, the new ideology was formed.

NRx had this funny idea back in the day that pathological altruism and virtue signaling are the same thing. This is the sort of thing that happens when people think they’re ULTRA INTELLIGENT because they had good grades in school. 4 A’s, an A-, and a B+ in Spanish, incredibru! You, sir, have the makings of a philosopher king. Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to reorganize society for all 350,000,000 of the rest of us in America so that you won’t need to work a day job making things people actually want. I can’t think of anything I’d rather pay to support with my labor than lengthy blog posts redesigning our caste system to put IT professionals at the top, complete with harems to realize said professionals’ full reproduction potential.

What these geniuses missed is that pathological altruism and virtue signaling are mutually exclusive, on account of the logical contradiction and all. This isn’t a problem for Nietzschean ubermenschen, so the rest of this post is for us humble plebs who don’t quite grasp how dialectic shapes a population of wannabe psychopaths practicing philosophical pragmatism into shining golden cities.

See, “virtue signaling” is a strategy for maximizing personal fitness in a social species. “Altruism” is a strategy for maximizing group fitness at the expense of individual fitness. This is where things get tricky unless you’re the superman (don’t blink!)…you can’t expend personal fitness and maximize it at the same time. I see some of you are still having trouble with this because you think group fitness and individual fitness are the same thing. May I suggest starting an an esoteric Alt-Right podcast?

Example of altruism: Pat Tillman joins the military instead of being rich and famous, dies in ignominy. The nation is safer because this dude was an ingenopathic beast-mode warrior, and now other men fuck his hot wife (probably including the evil bastards who shot him in the back). Group fitness maximized at the expense of individual fitness.

Example of virtue signaling: A guy’s wife gets brutally murdered by an immigrant, so he uses his EPIC VICTIM STATUS to argue in favor of the status quo, i.e. more immigrants. He is subsequently lauded by the landed press, invited to fancy cocktail parties in New York City, and fucks a series of impressionable young MTV whores way out of his league. Individual fitness is maximized at the expense of group fitness.

“Pathological” means something continues to happen even though it’s bad for you and there’s no longer a purpose in continuing. Wage cucking is pathological on the individual level. The spic-nig cycle is pathological on the societal level. What this means is that pathological altruism means expending individual fitness to maximize group fitness, except group fitness doesn’t get maximized. Get it?

Now you know, so you can get back to blaming immigration on 500 years of Christian mindwaves poisoning discourse at modern day Harvard, because if there’s anything they love at Harvard it’s the Psalms. It just makes sense.

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29 Responses to Rant: pathological altruism vs. virtue signaling

  1. Mycroft Jones says:

    +1 epic. The people complaining about Harvard and the Puritans are mainly Catholics. Dammit Aeoli, our ancestors came here to GET AWAY from those pesky Catholics! Whenever they have political power, it is back to “off with their heads”. No wonder Queen Elizabeth had to ally with the Ottoman’s.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      It’s also people who would be Catholics if they weren’t allergic to repentance.

      I wouldn’t have any complaints about our Catholic cousins if they could argue like adults, but then that’s the thing isn’t it? The only thing they understand is power.

  2. Edenist Whackjob says:

    “What these geniuses missed is that pathological altruism and virtue signaling are mutually exclusive, on account of the logical contradiction and all.”

    I think it’s accurate to say that virtue signals can be about many things, including the type of out-group extended altruism that is pathological if taken too far. Virtue signalling can also be about Confucianism adherence, being a sober alcoholic, one’s own sexual modesty, or anything else that is a moral value in a given time and place.

    If the level of pathology is the individual, then yes, virtue-signalling out-group altruism and actually doing it are tautological opposites. One increases personal fitness, the other one doesn’t.

    I guess one could make a 2×2:

    Increase personal fitness, increase group fitness: intra-tribal virtue-signalling?

    Decrease personal fitness, increase group fitness: intra-tribal sacrifice of individual human lives

    Increase personal fitness, decrease group fitness: virtue signalling in current year

    Decrease personal fitness, decrease group fitness: pathological altruism

    Just fleshing this out to figure out how and when it is a logical contradiction.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >I think it’s accurate to say that virtue signals can be about many things, including the type of out-group extended altruism that is pathological if taken too far.

      No need to confuse the two, some virtue signaling pretends to be altruism because in Western culture altruism is often considered a virtue. That’s all.

      >I guess one could make a 2×2:

      I’m glad you did it, because you told me I can’t make 2x2s until I get my life together and LEARN PROGRAMMING :-D.

  3. Koanic says:

    Scorched earth

    Jesus made disciples, not essays

  4. glosoli says:

    I could only read the first few lines, the snow drift is so deep now, it’s so cold too.

  5. bicebicebice says:

    This is how Thards die in Melon Wars.

    Leaving your 100% owned property and land, no government involved, is degenerate.

    Regards Thal Thalsson.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      Ownership is such a tricky thing though. What if I decide I own your land because I HAVE RIGHTS. My view is you don’t really own anything you can’t defend with force such that appropriating it is unreasonably costly to centralized bureaucrats and their barbarian hordes.

      • bicebicebice says:

        Very real.
        I could say very true, too, or rather, instead.
        But, we, people, don’t like to think that way, in general.

        “We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”

        Violence on those who would steal your Playstation. None of these guys allowed in a culturalmarxist society, Sweden, unfortunately.

  6. Craig says:

    So in laymen’s terms;
    pathological altruism = cuck
    virtue signaling = traitor

  7. Boneflour says:

    Good distinction, entertaining rant. +1

  8. Kingboss says:

    Churchians are going idolater:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10133906/Church-of-England-creating-pagan-church-to-recruit-members.html

    I wonder how long it will take for every religion to join this “church”. I would ask when the satanists get their horned altar under whats supposed to be an icon of Jesus, but there were too many mohammedans at the pews selling korans and hadiths for me to find a seat and the voodoo immigrants were too loud with their dead chicken totem worshipping outside.
    The part line doesn’t stop till everyone is not christian in the church! Insanity and retardation in da house yo!

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      Dude, I’m freakin triggered lately. These cucks are worse than useless. Wolves in sheep’s clothing is the nicest way you could put it.

      • SirHamster says:

        “I feel for my Muslim brothers and sisters” – virtue signaling churchian woman on social media, when confronted with pattern of Muslims faking hate crimes.

        I am glad I have the VP/Alt-Right/RP maps to understand these ridiculous statements, but it isn’t helping my Omega-ish tendencies.

  9. Aeoli Pera says:

    I’d be surprised if these don’t already exist. Do governments fund genetics research out of the goodness of their hearts?

    • Heaviside says:

      Unit 731 experimentally determined the susceptibilities of the various races to different bioweapons. According to one person, it’s because the U.S. government wouldn’t believe that these diseases could afflict white people without photographic proof.

  10. j says:

    legit.

    though i suppose different races/phrenotypes/worldviews would likely be predisposed to define “individual fitness” or “group fitness” differently.

    thought experiment, imagine someone who thinks: “my eternal soul will be cursed to the seven hells if i do not . ” so it’s a problem wherein the rubrics of objectively-defined fitness sometimes contradict the rubrics of subjectively-defined fitness to an extreme degree.

    there’s also the problem of the additional dimension of time. where someone might leverage short-term losses for long-term gains.

    lastly i can see why people would lump PA and VS together. i’ll tentatively refer to this as “phrenological homogenization”. whereby different phrenotypes borrow behaviors from one another as a result of being raised in close proximity in an atomized environment. behaviors such as e.g. passive aggression. disingenuity. etc. the Matrix/Cathedral/whatever is the common factor in people who manifest both behaviors.

    that’s the perverse beauty of Political Correctness where what you say is everything, while what you are on the inside effectively means nothing (Christ, talk about doublethink…). a dishonorable virtue-signalling rabbit-person and a bluepilled virtue-signalling pathological-altruist thal would, in such an environment, present as two identical virtue-signalling shitlibs. by ((design)), the sheeple are ((trained)) to make up their minds about other people purely based on whether they spout the ((approved)) dogma i.e. transmit the ((correct)) signals.

    that’s way too fucking long.
    fug.
    simple version:
    even though the two are not the same thing, pathological altruism is a subset of virtue-signalling (think Venn diagram).

    • j says:

      >thought experiment, imagine someone who thinks: “my eternal soul will be cursed to the seven hells if i do not . ” so it’s a problem wherein the rubrics of objectively-defined fitness sometimes contradict the rubrics of subjectively-defined fitness to an extreme degree.

      argh, the comment system ate a few words:
      thought experiment, imagine someone who thinks: “my eternal soul will be cursed to the seven hells if i do not $highImpactAnHero right now (*ostensibly* for the benefit of the group).”

      • Aeoli Pera says:

        >“my eternal soul will be cursed to the seven hells if i do not . ” so it’s a problem wherein the rubrics of objectively-defined fitness sometimes contradict the rubrics of subjectively-defined fitness to an extreme degree.

        That’s basically Pascale’s argument.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >there’s also the problem of the additional dimension of time. where someone might leverage short-term losses for long-term gains.
      lastly i can see why people would lump PA and VS together. i’ll tentatively refer to this as “phrenological homogenization”. whereby different phrenotypes borrow behaviors from one another as a result of being raised in close proximity in an atomized environment. behaviors such as e.g. passive aggression. disingenuity.

      It’s an association thing. Altruism was associated with high status, so people aped it. The rest of the idea isn’t difficult if you approach it from the perspective of humans being adaptation executors, rather than fitness maximizers.

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