What each social class wants

As a precursor to guessing which neurotransmitter and hormonal set points each social class pursues, I think it’s necessary to generalize what abstract qualities they pursue. Note that individuals’ set points can change in response to a regular series of shocks: weightlifters acquire higher testosterone set points, long-term marijuana enthusiasts probably have higher dopamine set points, and so on.

In general, I believe these abstract desires correspond to the more concrete desire to be promoted to the next social class. For example, the middle class wants “success” because success = upper-middle class.

Out-of-sight upper: Wants the prisca sapientia
Upper: Wants a historical legacy of influence
Upper-middle: Wants prestige

Middle: Wants success
High prole: Wants deference
Mid prole: Wants R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Low prole: Wants protection (from the boss and other in-group social predators)

Destitute: Wants security (from out-group physical predation like rape, murder, and robbery)
Out-of-sight poor: Wants legitimacy (formal acceptance into the in-group, alleviating the fear of police and other in-group antibodies)

Also notable is that each class scorns the desires of the class below them, probably as a way of discouraging upward mobility. For example, it’s a common joke in the middle class to make up professional-sounding names for demeaning jobs, like “sanitation engineer” for janitors and “nutrition specialist” for fast food workers. This derides the desire of the high proles to have their specializations taken seriously:

The kind of jobs high-prole people do tempt them to insist that they are really “professionals,” like “sanitation men” in a large city. A mail carrier tells Studs Terkel why he likes his work: “They always say, ‘Here comes the mailman.’…I feel it is one of the most respected professions there is throughout the nation.” Prole women who go into nursing never tire of asserting how professional they are [Ed: Hopefully they’ll meme it into existence someday.], and the same is true of their daughters who, become air stewardesses, a favorite high-prole occupation. Although Army officers, because they are all terrified of the boss, are probably more middle-class than high-prole, they seem the lower the more they insist that they are “professionals,” and since their disgrace in Vietnam, and their subsequent anxiety about their social standing, that insistence has grown more mechanical. [Ed: That’s because it’s now policy in the military that everyone insist this as often as possible.] An Army wife says, “Some like to speak of doctors, lawyers, etc., as professionals. All [Army] officers are professionals.” And then, a notable deviation from logic: “Who could be more professional than the man who has dedicated his whole life to the defense of his country?”

Paul Fussell
Class (pg. 45)

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  1. bicebicebice says:

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    DELETE THIS!

    You know what I find funny? When people tell you the usual “work hard for le dreams!!!”, and then they discourage you the next second for doing exactly that, in consistency with le perceived social rank, theirs and yours, projecting, sort of.
    Like Wohaa dude I didn’t actually mean for you to succeed.

    You know what I mean?
    You said you got a grown up job, but, the majority would cheer you on for trying to get it, and when you got it, you are still an apple-reshelver-helper in their eyes.

    Depending on my looks, I have heard everything from “there’s royalty”, “are you going to a business meeting” when casually travelling, “can you get me a job at the bank too(???)”, to “is that cat food your dinner HEHE!”.

    “What each genetic class wants”.
    I don’t think they overlap, gut feeling.

    Praise Santa, Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve okay Murry Christmas

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >DELETE THIS!

      I can’t, because Russian hackers.

      >You know what I find funny? When people tell you the usual “work hard for le dreams!!!”, and then they discourage you the next second for doing exactly that, in consistency with le perceived social rank, theirs and yours, projecting, sort of.

      I’m continually impressed by how much of human social behavior is pure gaslighting.

      >You said you got a grown up job, but, the majority would cheer you on for trying to get it, and when you got it, you are still an apple-reshelver-helper in their eyes.

      The impression I give people varies in the extreme. It’s like a Rorschach test.

      >“What each genetic class wants”.
      I don’t think they overlap, gut feeling.

      Much less so than 500 years ago, but still significantly, gut feeling.

      >Praise Santa, Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve okay Murry Christmas

      Merry Christmas Bice.

  2. Wow. This post is prisca sapientia for sure.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      I await my blank check with bated breath.

      • Sorry can’t help with that I’m afraid. But in the meantime I can only share what I’ve been thinking about: Rene Girard.

        This idea of social tension driven by the desire to mimic, resolved via blood sacrifice and this truth being the Revelation of the New Testament is very interesting.

        https://www.amazon.com/Scandal-Studies-Violence-Mimesis-Culture/dp/1611861098

        This philosophy drives Facebook very much and forms the basis of Peter Thiel’s Christianity. Thiel is interesting because he has the mentality of an Upper Middle Class Edenic weirdo. Genius, Uber-Melon-Thal hybrid. Very big eyes, very deep sockets, very high forehead. It’s like he’s from actual Edenic times. He’s on the leading edge of social influence and technocratic thought.

        http://blakemasters.com/peter-thiels-cs183-startup

        I’m in Vancouver right now. It’s a very INTJ city. Neanderthal, Owly, know how to survive and prosper. Deep sockets, big eyes, dismissively judgemental but courteous, fair but ruthless. They’d read you the Bible when they summarily execute you type of people. Thoroughly honourable. There is a lot of Chinese money swimming around here but it’s not like London where it’s all very silly. There’s mining, oil, tech, retail, real estate it’s clean and all hangs together fairly coherently as thing unlike American cities which just feel like at you’re at the circus. Vancouver is an interesting place for sure and I hope I can stay here.

      • I think overall your analysis misses what happens at the margins, which is where all the juicy stuff happens and what Girard and Thiel go into a nice amount of mature-rated detail about.

        I also have a Buddhist perspective but I can’t really articulate it yet.

        Overall I feel that everything’s fine as long as you aren’t sucked in by the lights. It’s a jungle out there.

        • Rime says:

          >Overall I feel that everything’s fine as long as you aren’t sucked in by the lights. It’s a jungle out there.

          It might be just that I am gloomsaying but I dont agree thay everything is fine. No man is an island, not even a thal. If we pretend that sap and melon class struggles do not effect us we will get overrun by the hordes like we did 14,000 yrs ago.

          Time for woo!

          So did the ur-melons create sap grunts and cromag shock troops to kill off amud-thals because they had just expanded their Dunbar’s number to the point that civilization might have been possible? Or was it that an enterprising ur-melon wanted to move up the social ladder and embarked on a campaign of glory and eradication with amud attempts at proto-civilization as a good excuse? We may never know! Melons love excuses, the more irritatingly preposterous the better!

          If you have ever said, “Because I can.” you may be one of us! Our telephone is 1800-PYRAMID.

          *to melons reading this some of you are family, don’t take it personally

          • I wont take it personally…

          • For excuses to work they need to be irritatingly preposterous. Sensible excuses can only invite sensible criticism.

            Overall it’s probably best not to give it thought. An ancient dirty and vicious malevolence inhabits this planet no matter how it manifests.

            If you’re scared of sap/melon class struggles just move to Alaska. They don’t like it there for some reason.

            • Rime says:

              Anchorage would be a fantastic place for a carwash. It would take a lot of winter prep to work with water in those conditions, but a detail shop is easy to keep warm wherever you are in the world.

            • Lazer says:

              “If you’re scared of sap/melon class struggles just move to Alaska. They don’t like it there for some reason.”

              Can you please expand on this? I’m guessing it has something to do with the cold. From what I understand though there is gang violence in Alaska. So I am confused by your statement.

            • Rime says:

              Saps can’t deal with the cold because they have no immune system and lack the gut system capable of digesting vast quantities of flesh and organs necessary to survive the cold. Saps live on rice, corn, and wheat. And they can’t think past next week so fail to stockpile food and fuel for the winter. I have no idea why melons can’t do it. Not enough saps to eat. Too much work to get any pyramids built. ;)

              For real info devoid of flippancy:
              http://www.coolantarctica.com/Antarctica%20fact%20file/science/cold_humans.php

            • Rime says:

              >Overall it’s probably best not to give it thought. An ancient dirty and vicious malevolence inhabits this planet no matter how it manifests.

              Luke 4:5-8
              Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, “All this domain I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.” And Yahshua answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.'”

            • ‘I have no idea why melons can’t do it. Not enough saps to eat. Too much work to get any pyramids built. ;)’ Well they do in the sort of way that means there’s only ever 90% of what’s necessary to eat. This way they can direct the Saps’ violence/sex/scapegoating social mechanisms. I think up North they probably just need too many Thals to actually make it work. Which is why Vancouver is like Vancouver: a hard-ass MT city, whereas LA is LA: Jews and Snakes with everything in between marking a steady transition.

          • Pseudorandom Bypasser says:

            I took it personally and will do everything to make your life as miserable as possible from now on, but in an elegant and socially unnoticeable way of course!

            • Rime says:

              My life has just gone from bad to worse.

              lel this movie is what people promise acid is like.

              But in all serious though, how is it that you guys navigate social relationships the way I navigate chords? I didn’t think part of my brain was missing until edenism gave me the language to describe the class of people we call melons. But if I had your gift I would have gone through a lot more trouble than did.

            • ‘how is it that you guys navigate social relationships the way I navigate chords?’

              It’s just like learning to play a guitar I guess, except when you fuck up you get thrown off the bus. The stakes of the game sharpen the senses somewhat.

            • Rime says:

              Thank you, I will continue practicing.

  3. Post Alley Crackpot says:

    “Out-of-sight upper: Wants the prisca sapientia”

    How amusing … but for what, a play thing?

  4. Rime says:

    Let’s apply this theory to the altright.

    The altright is an attempt by the middle classes to gain the victim prestige and reproductive success that the left ostensibly gives to niggers (the supposed upper class of left identity politics). The altright is an attempt by the working classes to gain the protection and respect that the left ostensibly gives to the swpl/striver middle classes (cuz gentrification yo). The altright is an attempt by the upperclasses – Trump and his donors to gain the influence and priscia sapeintia ostensibly experienced and held by the left (just read the NYT).

  5. 2 brain waves

    1) Can I write for your blog?
    2) Out of sight uppers often secretly befriend neurotics or out of sight lowers

  6. Mead Mead says:

    HEY -(Your name/ Aeoli)-
    You may be interested in the breakdown Cernobitch is having right now. Confirms all suspicions and may be template for fall of more alt light figures(if picking a fight with Baked Alaska and the other unconfirmed stuff is as bad as I think it is for his brand).

  7. Koanic says:

    ITT: Excellent work.

    Didn’t know Vancouver was for MT hardasses.

    Not sure I would notice the temperature in my server room.

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