Rhetoric depends on insecurities (and misc.)

Rhetoric only works when it plays on people’s emotional insecurities. For instance, a griefer in one of Vox’s Periscopes said “Stop acting like you’ve read more than ten books”. The author of that rhetoric was assuming this would play on either Vox’s insecurities (about his intelligence) or his audience’s (about their own intelligence, or their confidence in Vox’s intelligence).

The reason “You have to go home” and “You have to go back” work so well as rhetoric against civic parasites is that they play on a parasite’s most fundamental fear: being removed from the host. Parasites without hosts have no future.

If you want to devise similarly effective rhetoric, you have to find similar insecurities. With leftists, these typically revolve around low reproductive fitness. With rightists, these typically revolve around being alone and outnumbered. The only people who don’t have insecurities are A) those with nothing to lose, or B) those with dependable, dangerous men on-call to do serious violence on a moment’s notice, or a profitable combination of the two. This is just the rule of nature applied to humans as political animals.

The rule “SJWs always project” comes from two attributes of SJWs: 1) they are solipsistic and thus believe other people have exactly the same insecurities as they do, and 2) they want to trigger other people’s insecurities with rhetoric. This leads to them attacking others in the ways that would be most effective for others to attack them.

Last, remember the rule of levels: never engage at a higher level than the other guy (or gal). Dialectic is for searchers exploring their ideas for mutual benefit. Pseudo-dialectic is for civic parasites posturing as intellectuals (NB: emotional insecurity detected!). Rhetoric is for political animals vying for common resources. Last, violence is for people who have no capital (including social capital) to lose by it. The political violence we’re going to see this year is the left’s reaction to their loss of capital.

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44 Responses to Rhetoric depends on insecurities (and misc.)

  1. Koanic says:

    More masculine writeprint than usual.

  2. bicebicebice says:

    “The reason “You have to go home” and “You have to go back” work so well as rhetoric against civic parasites is that they play on a parasite’s most fundamental fear: being removed from the host. Parasites without hosts have no future.”

    Delete this.

    “With rightists, these typically revolve around being alone and outnumbered.”
    This is interesting because reasons. Some people thrive in it, like Breivik, all the perceived glory for himself etc etc. Next level acquired taste subculture. Yolo.

  3. Boneflour says:

    This old Jack Outis post is my reference material for a concrete example of these principles in action: https://nobodygetsoffended.wordpress.com/2014/05/05/how-i-successfully-trolled-radfem-fakerobotgamer-the-7th-most-hated-redditor-worldwide/

    Projection is the hidden danger of trolling. By attacking someone, you can give them info about your own vulnerabilities.

    Know your enemy. Insult them on their terms, not yours.

    • glosoli says:

      Type quietly tomorrow, it’s Boneflower’s alcohol-fuelled reality avoidance party tonight, he can’t take his drink, hangovers are really bad, but let’s respect his choice of drug. He wants that respect.

      egyptian will be there too, high on a phenibut/cocaine/thalforce cocktail, he almost becomes interesting (for an arab). apercuck too, he’ll mostly be hiding in the lavatory with his little red book.

      Man, these guys know how to live the good life, such fungis.
      Enjoy your weekends.

      Nice link btw, trolls are all in China now I hear, too much war spending cost them their jobs. Sad, true though. Insult them on their terms eh, I doubt that would have any effect on a real man though. Let’s see shall we.

      http://www.lyrics.com/lyric/2741916

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >This old Jack Outis post is my reference material for a concrete example of these principles in action:

      The most interesting thing about this is the emergence of warrior idealism amongst troll culture. Probably this is 4GW at work.

      >Projection is the hidden danger of trolling. By attacking someone, you can give them info about your own vulnerabilities.

      I suppose this is true, but if you’re projecting you aren’t doing it right. Trolling is like cracking, it’s all about finding the exploits.

      • Boneflour says:

        Agreed that projection is Doing It Wrong. The Jack Outis mantra of “don’t get mad” is partly a counter to that mindset.

        Semi-useful metaphor: Hacking a computer can leave traces of the hack, even if it’s just which computer was compromised, what proxies were used, what employee was bribed. Communication is nearly always a two way street.

        “Don’t Get Mad” is a reminder to not take the bait, don’t react to things that might expose you. This is what I believe.

  4. M M says:

    Everyone is vulnerable- rhetoric depends on you being a human. Even Trump nearly gets triggered when people start saying he “has no money”(1st debate with Clinton). The reason is that humans don’t live in bubbles where rhetoric is one on one between the two parties. The implication that bystanders are being convinced you are lower status than you are can trigger the most powerful men in the world.

    • glosoli says:

      ‘In this world, not of this world’

      Not being of this world means total invulnerability. It also means unflinching dedication to truth. I care not what other men say or think of me. I answer to a higher authority.

      • M M says:

        We are all fallen beings- all vulnerable. You care very much what people think of you. Hopefully you have the foresight not to argue how little you care- its an insane position.

        • bicebicebice says:

          Humor thread worthy.
          Itz like other K’s had to invent stoicism, maybe even all other forms philosophy and psychology as well!!!to combat the built-in autism of the Neanderspergs.

          “Can you open the door?”
          “Yes (( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)).”

        • glosoli says:

          Are you trying a Jedi mind trick on me with this ‘You care very much what people think of you’.

          Sorry to disappoint you, but you ain’t no Jedi. Now, move along.

          • M M says:

            Ugh, you still did it. My point is that someone that doesnt care doesnt feel the need to respond(Especially defensively)! No hate, just pointing out whats obv.

            • glosoli says:

              Disagreeing with your point is just that. It doesn’t therefore follow that I care what you think about me.

            • M M says:

              All humans want to be liked, accepted, and agreed with. Don’t feel so insecure about it.

            • M M says:

              Lazer, Glosoli’s statement that he is above the laws of nature and mortal men is not “asserting his masculinity” it is being a blowhard and liar. Defending a lie is masculine to you?

          • glosoli says:

            ‘Lazer, Glosoli’s statement that he is above the laws of nature and mortal men is not “asserting his masculinity” it is being a blowhard and liar. Defending a lie is masculine to you?’

            You state all humans care? Utter nonsense. You call me a liar, with no proof. You’re clearly unhinged. It’s cool that you are happy to display your character flaws so vividly here. Very masculine. Heh.

            • M M says:

              Invulnerability and dedication to truth, indeed^
              I have proved nothing, save for PREDICTING EXACTLY HOW YOU WOULD RESPOND BEFORE YOU EVEN DID IT. You fucking meat puppet.

            • M M says:

              Us speaking is pointless.
              Will from now on ignore you.

            • glosoli says:

              Well done on your predictions.

              Less speaking, more reading, that will serve you well.

              I’ll bet my opening line in this thread went right over your head anyway. Dullard.

            • glosoli says:

              Soup, mostly.
              Dullard.

  5. Boneflour says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/02/01/protesters-gather-uc-berkeley-milo-show-police-helicopters-appear/

    It’s definitely intensified. Fire and blood and destruction. Careful America, your Civil War is showing.

    • bicebicebice says:

      Now you know why Breivik struck first. Nip it in the bud.

      inb4 Apercuck whines again

    • M M says:

      Right on schedule. By summer the bombings should start and then Trump can respond the way that is trully needed.

      • bicebicebice says:

        The funny thing is, in Europe, antifa and “nazi”-gangs are always run the governments. What Tex said:The best opposition is the one you cast, manufacture and produce yourself.

        Not that i’m complaining, gonna be a walk in the park on the behalf of The God-Emperor Trump.

        • bicebicebice says:

          *run by the government.

          • M M says:

            Honestly was surprised when Trump didn’t have multiple rallies in Southern California to gin up riots and get some people killed towards the end of the election.
            (Probably is saving that trick for sometime in the term ie right before deportations start)

            • bicebicebice says:

              “The best part is we can now use the “If you see something, say something” shtick against the left. ”

              A pox on the pol mods who shut down the RWSS (officially…( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)!!!)

              Leading with Humor.

  6. Ankg Plyd says:

    “Last, remember the rule of levels: never engage at a higher level than the other guy (or gal). Dialectic is for searchers exploring their ideas for mutual benefit. Pseudo-dialectic is for civic parasites posturing as intellectuals (NB: emotional insecurity detected!).”

    All arguing is a fight: if not against something and someone, at least for boosting self-esteem.
    Even dialectic where one plays both sides within his own mind isn’t normally aimed at truth (if by pseudo-dialectic you mean reasoning not directed at finding out truth).

    You seem very concerned with parasites as of late.
    Everybody, and every group for those who have enough good judgment to form groups and act cohesively, do their best in this bitterly fucking life, and fight for their interests from the position life has put them in.
    So if when you talk of parasites that’s a detached choice of words with no moral undertones, fine, but if it comes with implicit moral blame, well, I disagree.

  7. Heaviside says:

    Of course it does! The distinctly American individualistic bourgeois Liberal ideology of our time has caused us to mistake insecurity for a purely subjective phenomenon, but in reality psychological insecurity is usually a result of an objective insecurity of social status. This is basically what M M said.

    • M M says:

      After reading the blog archives it is easy to say Heaviside is one of the smartest people here. Also mostly sure you are one of the longest serial commentator this blog has so that’s another really great point in your favor.

  8. Aeoli Pera says:

    Having nothing to lose is more of an emotional state than anything. Despair is one way to absorb a DGAF mindset, psychopathy is probably another.

  9. The Unists says:

    Awesome post. Totally on point concerning the issue of SJW insecurities. We just did something similar titled “Feelings of Insecurity: Self-Hatred is a Leftist Trait,” if you’re interested. Love your work!

    • M--M says:

      Your philosophy is weak cuck utopian shit.
      Suck a nigger dick faggot

      • The Unists says:

        haha thanks bro. it is pretty weak, idk what we were thinking. Thanks for the heads up, and keep anonymously stroking your tiny angry white dick in these and our comment sections ex deeeee! (…and at 3AM no less! lmaoooo so threatened by other ppls ideas, even weak ass hippie ones, that you have to lash out like an oh-so-edgy 12yo /b/-tard.. (it must be said again) anonymously! talk about INSECURE!) But you’re cool man, you’re cool, we fuck wit you…
        Just let us know when your mom’s done with that digger nick you want us to suck, if she ever will be, and we’ll be sure to give it a shot! :D Just like it gave Her a shot! To the face! You get it? A big sploodgey load, shot right all over her face! We would know, because we filmed it (to send to your broken, gay daddy) and she paid us $8 for the privilege (she laughingly called it your “college fund,” or something but we couldn’t understand her at the time because she was stuffed with so much vicious black cock at each end that her eyes were popping out of her skull, it was priceless) praise kek pepe did nothing wrong ex deee

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