Meandering thoughts on Christianity

What is the purpose and meaning of life? “Life” is defined here as DNA, particularly, and the creator of life/DNA may not be the same as the creator of the universe in general. Secular people who understand the improbability of life tend to ascribe it to ancient aliens, whereas pagans and Christians ascribe it to God, gods, etc. My best guess is that it’s Jesus, so I’ll proceed with that assumption in mind.

There are two very distinct questions here because purpose and meaning are different things. A hammer has a very definite purpose, as defined by the person who created it. The creator was answering a question of “how” to pound something more effectively. So the purpose of something is the problem that it was created to solve. The meaning of a hammer is more contextual. If we find a fossilized hammer in a European cave, that means one thing. If we find a bloody hammer at the scene of a murder, that means another thing. So the meaning of something is what it tells us about the mind that was solving the problem.

Insofar as I can tell, the purpose of life is to worship the creator of the universe. The Old Testament appears to be primarily the history of a eugenic program by the creator of DNA, probably with the intention of raising intelligence and consciousness to serve that purpose of worshiping. There is also a great deal about morality as regards things like cleanliness, dirtiness, and sanctity. These concepts are integral to our human sense of morality. It’s like debt, except that I believe worship/disgust—where sin is considered as analogous to dirtiness—is a true moral axis (in the sense of divine command morality) whereas debt/fairness is a false moral axis (in the sense of being an evolutionary artifact). It appears that Jesus’ purpose in making DNA-based consciousnesses more holy is to make worship of the universe’s creator possible. It’s like we’re going through decontamination processes before going into a clean room. So, the meaning of life is Jesus’ love for his father, which compels him to go to such great lengths. This is what Christians refer to as the Truth, upper-case T.

Disgust is repulsion, a desire to disassociate ourselves from something. It’s a reaction to flaws and corruption. Worship is the opposite reaction, an attraction to perfection. I’ll define those things that tend to attract worship as “charismatic”. These are very fundamental feelings because they rely on the most basic sort of cognition: simple association. Disgusting things are perceived as “low” and charismatic things as “high”, and we want to be around “good” things and away from “bad” things.

Idealism is an aesthetic fixation to an idea or set of ideas that feels good. (Recall that aestheticism is the nonverbal expression of ideas.) People who tend to have fixations of other sorts—whether sexual, sensual, or otherwise— are likely to be idealistic also. Particularly interesting to readers of this blog, idealism is a necessary but not sufficient component of genius. Idealists with analytical personalities become idealogues who produce lengthy post-facto rationalizations justifying the counterfactuals supplied by their aestheticism. Idealists with holistic personalities become artists, and produce large bodies of work having some essential element of sensation in common. The rare individuals who are highly capable in both sorts of cognition can become geniuses.

Ideology, art, and genius are necessary for the evolution and transmission of culture but they are not sufficient for a religion. Humans are social animals who desire the company of other humans a priori. It follows that a charismatic ideal must be a person. This is what separates secular ideology from proper religions like Christianity or Zodiacism: religions acknowledge the personality endemic to idealism, whereas secularism tries to maintain the charisma of ideas without the personality. Ideas are fun because they give us the power to solve problems, but they are ultimately sterile.

Last thought for the day, completely out of left field…

Personally, I don’t find the Bible-based arguments in favor of Trinitarianism very compelling. However, I believe that humans were made in God’s image and I also believe we have three aspects: id, ego, and superego. It follows that God would have three aspects, or else there must be some other reason that we have them.

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47 Responses to Meandering thoughts on Christianity

  1. Edenist Whackjob says:

    A hunch: to see the Bible through science-fiction glasses as you do is the sign of a healthy amygdala and visual intelligence. Don’t expect me to back that up with logic :)

    • Edenist Whackjob says:

      Corollary: not seeing Bible through sci fi glasses (ie NLP-chunking it as “old stuff”) is verbal intelligence thing. Healthy visuals == timelessness. Leading to true creativity. DaVinci was a science fiction lover.

    • Boneflour says:

      I want to play the level where you’re killing 30 dudes with a donkey jawbone. Also you can summon bears on kids when they make fun of your dumb face. Damn kids.

      • Boneflour says:

        There are plenty of crazy set pieces and intense events to fill a video game with. Different parts would need different games though, can’t do the whole thing at once.

  2. Edenist Whackjob says:

    “Idealism is an aesthetic fixation to an idea or set of ideas that feels good. ”

    People with brain dysfunction that we call sociopathy can apparently function morally only through aestheticism.

    See here:

    The lip-smacking thing he does is highly disturbing btw. I notice several Swedish politicians, who have the aspiepath chin, doing that. Equally disturbing thing #2: learning that “pedo ears” is a thing, then meeting creepy people in person with those earlobes. TMI for my AH.

  3. Edenist Whackjob says:

    How is Edenism doing these days? Any verifiable increase in product-market fit? Any success stories among the community folks? If not, what are the systemic problems in cognitive algorithm preventing objective success on both mindshare and individual-level winning?

    • Koanic says:

      None of that is relevant to my Edenism critical path.

      I learned enough tech to build the forum correctly. Then I had to learn and build a lot more tech to handle the publishing phase correctly. Almost done.

      • Edenist Whackjob says:

        What’s the critpath? Faception goes Edenist or something or other I seem to recall?

        You’re MT so I’ll put it bluntly: read more strategy and delegate the techie stuff to your TTs. Say, Aeoli, who has expressed interest in learning programming, and probably could benefit from it career-wise.

        Robert Greene + A/B tests of strategies + weekly masterminds + learning to delegate == you’ll make a lot more progress.

        • Koanic says:

          It’s a project I’m doing under a different name. I’ve been releasing the code, but can’t explain how it’s supposed to be used until the prototype is complete. Nobody understands it without a demo, much less why they should use it.

          Anyhow, I consider it a prerequisite for conscientious delegation as well as publishing.

          Obviously the stuff you mentioned should be done collaboratively, which is why I’m not even attempting it right now.

          • Edenist Whackjob says:

            All I can do for you right now is give you my advice. Happy that you actually listen.

            Good luck with the endeavor.

          • Edenist Whackjob says:

            Personally, I’m aligned with New Byzantium, Christian revival, and defeating the Satanists. If you’re doing the same, I’m all for it. So don’t take my harshness as rebuke but rather an admonition to get on with the good work that needs doing.

            Thy will be done, thy Kingdom come, on Earth as it in Heaven. Amen.

            • glosoli says:

              Mr Whackjob, could I encourage you to rejoin the Edenic community at Altrugenics?
              It’s a tad bottom-heavy with heathens/satanists at present, we could do with some more Christian brothers to crowd out the weeds. Also, it would be interesting and heartening to read about your tactics and efforts to defeat satan. Regards.

            • Edenist Whackjob says:

              glosoli: it’s disheartening to turn a brother down. However, I must dedicate my efforts smartly – I’m already burning the candle at both ends as it is.

              One tactic would be group synchronized prayer. Set up a time every week where every Christian @ Altrugenics reads a psalm together asking for justice for the victims and mercy for perpetrators of, say, Pizzagate. Small things can unlock greater things.

              Keep the faith and be strong!

              Whacky out.

          • Edenist Whackjob says:

            The most important piece of advice I can make: make the transition from Sigma to Alpha. Then, everything will fall into place.

            Model Vox Day, who has made a similar journey. The solution is through tribal love and communicating a shared vision clearly. And making everyone follow the mission.

            All the best!

    • bicebicebice says:

      Stop pumping your junk and join the fun.
      “Doctors have claimed he has been stretching his penis with weights since he was a teenager. ”

      • Aeoli Pera says:

        How on earth do you get past the spam filters?

        • DA GHOST OF GBFM greatbooksformen GBFM TM REGISTERED TM MT MM TT GBFM!!!!!!m-m!!!!!!!!!!!! says:

          HEY AEOLI


          WHEN CANN WE READ IT OOO??//




          • Boneflour says:

            Even spam filters recognize a prophet when they see one. Bice, I will hook up wifi to a hut in the woods, and you can live on grasshoppers and wild honey and offerings from superstitious townsfolk.

            Esoteric mindfuck meme farming is the way of the Nobilid.

            -Regards, Nobilid.

      • Edenist Whackjob says:

        bicey, ask Koanic for a job to do. Something stimulating. Pretty clear to me you’re bored all the time.

        • bicebicebice says:

          But that is the problem, isn’t it?

          The way of the Nobilid = “We’re going to win so much. You’re going to get tired of winning. you’re going to say, ‘Please Mr. President, I have a headache. Please, don’t win so much. This is getting terrible.’ And I’m going to say, ‘No, we have to make America great again.’ You’re gonna say, ‘Please.’ I said, ‘Nope, nope. We’re gonna keep winning.’

  4. MM says:

    ^In case you missed it. Listen and soak it in
    Sound- when mathematically perfect- is the quickest way to experience the true and beautiful.
    3=1.5= Trinity

    • glosoli says:

      ‘Sound- when mathematically perfect- is the quickest way to experience the true and beautiful.’

      That sound was awful, like most modern art. Humanist crap.
      Try listening to ‘Amazing Grace’ for the real deal.

      • glosoli says:

        I hear this stuff scrambles your brain, literally, it’s Satan’s way to destroy your soul.
        Listen at your own peril. Clearly explains MM’s troubles. May Jehovah rescue him from his tormentors.

        • M./...\.M says:

          Mathematically perfect music= satanism… k
          Must have crushed your weak ego hard a few posts ago. You need some Thalforce nigga.

        • Heaviside says:

          have fun :^)

        • glosoli says:

          ‘Today computer technology allows us to achieve what thought could only approximate’.

          Said the lispy fem-man on the voice-over, a man with no imagination of greater things, like a Sigur Ros gig.

          Last night at 22.45 I heard a bird singing in the woods, it was orders of magnitude more beautiful than this soulless crap.

          Oh look, someone is talking to me, someone who said he wasn’t going to talk to me. Actually he’s talking to himself, but it’s surely interesting to see how weak his resolve/frame is. satan makes you weak, Jehovah makes you strong.

          • M./...\.M says:

            That crappy video was used to explain just intonation because you were too stupid to get the math, theory, etc. Turns out even a dumb video was too much for you. Holy choirs will always gravitate to singing JI. Flute and string soloists do the same. You sound like Bobby Bochier’s mother in the Waterboy. “Foozball is 4 da devil. And so b dat music dat is mathematically perfect yessir”.

            Being called a satanist has a tendency to make someone respond. Thats why you said it- you are on a loser hate crusade. Everyone here can judge for themselves who is more sane- Glosoli or MM.

            -Now go on with your weakness and hatred, oh not-so-holy one-

  5. Pseudorandom Bypasser says:

    Bible says that woman was made from man’s rib, but from biological perspective male body and brain are actually made “on top of”/”in addition to” the basic female body and brain. What are your neandering thoughts on this?

    • bicebicebice says:

      “Bible says that woman was made from man’s rib” there are better articles on this topic but you get the gist of it. Also, delete this comment right now.

      Regards not Melon Melonson

      • Aeoli Pera says:

        There are no limits to how disgusting we can become as a species with this new technology! Let’s make sure to spread this around because only the most psychopathic people will really pursue this to its full potential, and we need their valuable input if we’re going to take this as far over the cliff as we want to go.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      I didn’t understand it, sorry. I’ll try to restate it and you can tell me if I’m right. I.e. The human body is default female unless it differentiates into a male, whereas the Bible story is that Adam’s body was default male, and his clone was differentiated into a female. Is that it?

      • SirHamster says:

        The human body is default female unless it differentiates into a male, whereas the Bible story is that Adam’s body was default male, and his clone was differentiated into a female. Is that it?

        The Bible story is only that Adam was created. If his XY contains the full set of genetics for both male/female, that means humanity was created with Adam, while the instantiation of XX with the creation of Eve was a necessary second step for sexual reproduction and propagation.

        Would a designer make the Y an afterthought add-on? What would the female sex organ design be for if the corresponding male sex organ design wasn’t already in mind?

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