Herding behavior as the avoidance of Schelling points

First, you need to know what a Schelling point is.

Consider a simple example: two people unable to communicate with each other are each shown a panel of four squares and asked to select one; if and only if they both select the same one, they will each receive a prize. Three of the squares are blue and one is red. Assuming they each know nothing about the other player, but that they each do want to win the prize, then they will, reasonably, both choose the red square. Of course, the red square is not in a sense a better square; they could win by both choosing any square. And it is only the “right” square to select if a player can be sure that the other player has selected it; but by hypothesis neither can. However, it is the most salient and notable square, so—lacking any other one—most people will choose it, and this will in fact (often) work.

Schelling himself illustrated this concept with the following problem: “Tomorrow you have to meet a stranger in NYC. Where and when do you meet them?” This is a coordination game, where any place and time in the city could be an equilibrium solution. Schelling asked a group of students this question, and found the most common answer was “noon at (the information booth at) Grand Central Station”. There is nothing that makes Grand Central Station a location with a higher payoff (you could just as easily meet someone at a bar or the public library reading room), but its tradition as a meeting place raises its salience and therefore makes it a natural “focal point”.


Now watch this video from 24:25 to 26:32 (sorry, I couldn’t find a text source).

When you put these two ideas right next to each other, the conclusion is obvious: conformity is a selfish herding instinct by each individual to protect itself from groups of coordinated predators.

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17 Responses to Herding behavior as the avoidance of Schelling points

  1. Lizard King says:

    And yet, the predators encourage this herd mentality in humans while masking it as individualism. :)

    • Ulixes Orobar says:

      Predators exploit an innate tendency towards conformity in order to motivate the herd to act in the interests of the predators. Each of the members of the herd also wants to feel special. Predators can manipulate the perceptions of the herd’s members so that acting towards specific ends tends to result in feelings of specialness.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      I expect the sheepdogging is instinctual, whereas the complex cognitive empathy is much more conscious.

      • Lizard King says:

        Well, there are many types of predators in our environment. It’s different from being a zebra. (lol zebras are pretty cool though, unless you’re an APEX PREDATOR MELON LAVA and you think that they’re dumb)

        You’ve got the CRIMINAL PREDATORS – preying on the weak/alone/easy targets

        You’ve got the MASTERMIND PREDATORS – preying on entire societies through manipulation

        You’ve got the PREDATOR INCOGNITO – people who seem normal but manipulate on a small scale to get their way (Cereal Killaz, I’m watching you Lucky Charms Leprechaun)

        You’ve got the PREDATOR PREDATOR – dude who likes killing other predators for some sense of justice/herd survival/good excuse to kill people legally (SHEEPDOG/COLDDEADHANDS/OATHKEEPER)

        And you’ve got the…uh…well I wanted a fifth one but can’t think of one right now. :D

        • Pseudorandom Bypasser says:

          >You’ve got the PREDATOR PREDATOR – dude who likes killing other predators for some sense of justice/herd survival/good excuse to kill people legally (SHEEPDOG/COLDDEADHANDS/OATHKEEPER)

          Sociopathic empaths are the worst.

      • Ulixes Orobar says:

        You’re probably right about that. The sheepdogging instinct and the cognitive empathy fit together, though. The herding instinct motivates the cognitive empathy, and the cognitive empathy allows the herding instinct to function.

  2. Lazer says:

    Oh so thats why:
    Saps see us THALin
    They be hatin
    Trying to catch us nappin

  3. Pseudorandom Bypasser says:

    I hope they herd around a shelling point when the day of normie removal comes.

    • Lizard King says:

      Lol very punny.

    • A_KUMA says:

      Though I agree with these sentiments we will need the man power to rebuild. May I propose a plan to solve that. With the whitemen normie men at gun point or in an artilleries cross hares they have three options:
      1)Join us
      2)Work in forced labor
      3) Be shot on site and their bodies are left where they are (mass graves are a waste of man power and it serves a psychological effect to make the women kow tow overtly and covertly)

      The normie children cant just be killed. That would radicalize them too much. Maybe he who shall not be named can take them to an Island and teach them the ways of the cucks.

  4. SirHamster says:

    > Herding behavior as the avoidance of Schelling points

    > conformity is a selfish herding instinct by each individual to protect itself from groups of coordinated predators.

    Schelling points are where the mass congregates, because the mass congregates there, a self-referential equilibrium point.

    As such, I don’t see how conformity is avoiding Schelling points. But I do see there being something of an anti-Schelling point – Schelling points attract, anti-Schelling points repel. Conformity is the avoidance of anti-Schelling points. Ex; sick and wounded = anti-Schelling -> leave behind to wolves

    r/K may be a factor here – r will abandon ship, K will dig in around their own.

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