Reactions to stupidity

How do you react to stupidity? Do you get sad? Angry? Disgusted? Humorous? Giddy? Because g is generally interchangeable with IQ, we can use low intelligence as a stand-in for weakness. So your reaction to stupidity generally signals whether you’re nurturing, predatory, etc. Reference:

There are three possible reactions to in-group weakness: sadness, anger, fear, and disgust. Sadness comes from the perception that a person’s weakness decreases group strength, and the belief that you’re powerless to change this (feeling “smaller” than the problem). Anger comes from the same perception, and the belief that you (being “bigger” than the problem) ought to modify their behavior with positive punishment. (If you don’t know how to fix the problem though, this desire to fix it will result in frustration = anger * sadness.) Disgust is the same perception and the belief that such weakness is an existential threat, resulting in emotional out-grouping (reduction of the problem’s size via distance) and an attitude demanding “distance or fire”. Fear obviously indicates a feeling that someone else’s weakness will put you in danger.

If stupidity makes you happy, this means you regard the weak person as out-group competition, so that their downfall is your success. Righteous fury is the predatory desire to profit by punishing competition. Contempt indicates a desire to cull the in-group via out-grouping. Heartbreak (“disappointment” would have been a better word) indicates a failure to correctly anticipate stupidity, combined with feelings of powerlessness. Outrage (characteristic of SJWs) is the same, except coupled with the desire to punish instead of powerlessness. This makes an amount of sense, because the “surprise” comes from a failure to be moral within their pseudo-religious framework, ergo “stupid”. I think the most insidious emotional reaction is horror, which is the recognition that Idiocracy is real life. I suspect that part of the social dysfunction that afflicts many extraordinarily smart people is the constant feeling that they’re living in a horror movie.

So to summarize some of this free association:

Fear <- Perception that stupidity will cause danger
Sadness <- Perception of stupidity and personal powerlessness
Anger <- Perception of stupidity and personal responsibility
Disgust <- Perception of stupidity as insidious, existential danger
Happiness <- Perception of weakness as opportunity
(Surprise <- Failure to correctly anticipate behavior, as usual)
(Worship <- Doesn't occur, unless weakness is redefined as strength as in "diversity is our strength")

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19 Responses to Reactions to stupidity

  1. Lizard King says:

    Hm. For in-group this goes Anger then Disgust for me.

    Starting as a “hey, cut that shit out” thing and over time it becomes “alright guys, first chance we get, we’re taking this guy out” thing.

    I ignore out-group stupidity unless it is immediately beneficial.

    My observations are predicated upon me having “emotions” though. Still not sure I understand those. In the words of THA ZUCC “…and I was human, I am human, still. But um, but, but I was just referring to myself in the past. Not that I was not human…”

    “There are three possible reactions to in-group weakness: sadness, anger, fear, and disgust.”
    I’ve been staring at a screen all day so I may be seeing things…but I think you may have a typo there, bud.

  2. Koanic says:

    Heh. I’m not angry, I’m just responsible.

    Good stuff.

  3. bicebicebice says:

    Humongous if enormous, I just recently had an altercation with stupid which left me angery and then a bit stressed because I was “waiting” for the molasses known as the system to move despite me of course knowing it never would, so I had to grease the wheels myself which left me in a very good position with som new high profile contacts and budding colleague-relationships.
    This should be your first e-book or summat, how to move on in face of stupid and make progress.

    Wow, one of your best posts ever my dude! :D

  4. Pseudorandom Bypasser says:

    I’m othered by stupidity.

  5. Ulixes Orobar says:

    If the stupidity occurs in an overconfident individual, I feel disgust. (“Stupidity” here doesn’t exactly refer to having a low IQ; it refers to cluelessness, ignorance, or an apparent deficiency of awareness.) If it occurs without an excess of confidence, I react with indifference or sympathetic embarrassment. If it occurs in a stranger, I feel indifference or amusement.

  6. a says:

    Through the travail of the ages, Midst the pomp and toil of war, Have I fought and strove and perished, Countless times upon this star.

    In the form of many people, In all panoplies of time, Have I seen the luring vision, Of the Victory Maid, sublime.

    I have battled for fresh mammoth, I have warred for pastures new, I have listed to the whispers, When the race trek instinct grew.

    I have known the call to battle, In each changeless changing shape, From the high souled voice of conscience, To the beastly lust for rape.

    I have sinned and I have suffered, Played the hero and the knave; Fought for belly, shame, or country, And for each have found a grave.

    I cannot name my battles, For the visions are not clear, Yet, I see the twisted faces, And I feel the rending spear.

    Perhaps I stabbed our Savior, In His sacred helpless side. Yet, I’ve called His name in blessing, When after times I died.

    In the dimness of the shadows, Where we hairy heathens warred, I can taste in thought the lifeblood; We used teeth before the sword.

    While in later clearer vision, I can sense the coppery sweat, Feel the pikes grow wet and slippery, When our Phalanx, Cyrus met.

    Hear the rattle of the harness, Where the Persian darts bounced clear, See their chariots wheel in panic, From the Hoplite’s leveled spear.

    See the goal grow monthly longer, Reaching for the walls of Tyre. Hear the crash of tons of granite, Smell the quenchless eastern fire.

    Still more clearly as a Roman, Can I see the Legion close, As our third rank moved in forward, And the short sword found our foes.

    Once again I feel the anguish, Of that blistering treeless plain, When the Parthian showered death bolts, And our discipline was in vain.

    I remember all the suffering, Of those arrows in my neck. Yet, I stabbed a grinning savage, As I died upon my back.

    Once again I smell the heat sparks, When my Flemish plate gave way, And the lance ripped through my entrails, As on Crecy’s field I lay.

    In the windless, blinding stillness, Of the glittering tropic sea, I can see the bubbles rising, Where we set the captives free.

    Midst the spume of half a tempest, I have heard the bulwarks go, When the crashing, point blank round shot, Sent destruction to our foe.

    I have fought with gun and cutlass, On the red and slippery deck, With all Hell aflame within me, And a rope around my neck.

    And still later as a General, Have I galloped with Murat, When we laughed at death and numbers, Trusting in the Emperor’s Star.

    Till at last our star faded, And we shouted to our doom, Where the sunken road of Ohein, Closed us in it’s quivering gloom.

    So but now with Tanks a’clatter, Have I waddled on the foe, Belching death at twenty paces, By the star shell’s ghastly glow.

    So as through a glass, and darkly, The age long strife I see, Where I fought in many guises, Many names, but always me.

    And I see not in my blindness, What the objects were I wrought, But as God rules o’er our bickerings, It was through His will I fought.

    So forever in the future, Shall I battle as of yore, Dying to be born a fighter, But to die again, once more.

    – General George Smith Patton Jr.

  7. Tom Kratman says:

    It really depends on the nature and quality of the stupidity. Is it merely ignorance? In that case, barring some people, it can be educated. Is it non-offensive? A simply case of “duh”? Then you simply say, “Now do what I tell you to do.” Is it SJW stupidity? Then one shits on it publicly, joyfully, and in as cholera-like a way as possible.

  8. Heaviside says:

    Disgust is the only real source of morality.

    • IQ=123 (whew) says:

      Isn’t it pity?
      If you are disgusted & sad, you will try to change the source of your sadness (disgust only would motivate you to turn your back to it and walk away).

      **[Not replies to Heaviside but to the post]

      — How can anger and happiness coexist?
      — Why did you take a “group” perspective? Lol, shouldn’t, at least, the ex post recognition of our own stupidity have be put in the picture?
      How do our reactions to our stupidity, when it has been found out, and that seen in others?
      — How much of stupidity can be defined as low g or IQ, and how much as something else?
      The brain, or mind, or brain-mind is too complex for anything to come down to IQ or G (aside from certain more quantifiable performances).
      I perceive stupidity as lack of wisdom, or self-awareness.
      Sincerely, if someone can’t do 7*12 without a calculator, my emotional response is blank. I have no problems with that.

      If we have our hands at a task where doing calculations like 7*12 affects the group’s work (my work), I’ll get angry and sad (or fearful, if the stakes and potential consequences for me are high). But not because they can’t do 7*12.
      More because they aren’t conscious enough to step down from their position, or because the others in the group condone their lack of skill due to their social skills (ability to provide the group members with pleasurable emotions), …

      I am sure wisdom (foresight, caution) correlates positively with g. However, it correlates in a “when the streetlights are green you may cross the road”. The streetlights can be green and you may as well not cross the road (for example because you are paralyzed).
      Think of that one who made, say, 2 billions gambling with stocks, derivatives, and so on. He suddenly loses 1 billion, and guns himself down.
      Am I to think this one isn’t stupid, or that he had low g?

      I would use the term unintelligence instead.

      Heartbreak and disappointment point to the same thing, just more intense for the first. It’s about degree, not one word being more proper than the other, I think.

      As for SJWs as well as any other ideological format of man, we are talking of moulded “ideas”, mass-produced. This has more to do with the desire to feel high-value, that is to side with the perceived majority /high-status majority (who wants to be a sick one by the definitions of the Eysencks of this world?).
      You can induce people to manifest any belief (and then believe they really hold it, due to their need to not have a self-image of poseurs), insofar as they are Eysenck-approved.

      I mean, glance at the hundreds of comments to an article like “OkCupid bans white supremacist “for life,” asks daters to report others” on Ars Technica. The average g there is at least 110.

      I hope at least a line of what I posted isn’t useless to this blog.

      • IQ=123 (whew) says:

        “How do our reactions to our stupidity, when it has been found out, and that seen in others?”

        A “compare” is lacking in that phrase.

    • a says:

      “Disgust is the only real source of morality.”

      To be accurate- Having a sense of doing what is the best course of action- now and across all time spans- (and then ACTUALLY DOING IT) is the only real source of morality.

      ^Disgust can build-in many of the proper responses, but it can do the opposite as well. Like being born being disgusted that you have arms, or any of the disgust the sjws feel towards normative behavior.

      And the greatest counter-example: Satan is disgusted with that he views to be an existence so terrible that it should not be and thus works to destroy all of existence.

      Anyway, that clears it up.

  9. IQ=123 (whew) says:

    Disgust -> Superiority Complex (over time) is interesting because it can be run in the opposite verse.

    People who (unconsciously) dread their being worthless will try to induce in their selves a superiority complex. Thereupon, they will try to (believe that they are)/be disgusted, and make a show of it.
    There you have exhibited disgust. Exhibiting disgust is one of the main modes to virtue-signal/status-signal/reassure oneself of one’s superiority (which of course is paired with non-stop expressions of equality, humbleness, and so on. Always opposition between conscious and unconscious, display and subterranean sentiment, in any social context.)

    • Ø says:

      You are preaching to an earless congregation

      • Ø says:

        That isn’t to say that what you’re on about ain’t true, though, because it seems to be from what I can tell, especially the last bit about a person’s external persona reliably contrasting with their internal reality (Jung wrote about this wrt a person’s anima). I’d guess that this phenomenon reliably increases and amplifies with scale.

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