Analysis of emotional palettes by demographic

bice requested that I expand on the idea that different demographics are comfortable with different emotional mixes. For example, I don’t mind mixing cute (saccharine = happy) with horror (disgust*fear), but I can’t tolerate mixing horror with sexual. So I liked Elfen Lied, but I dislike most American horror movies because they’re very sexual and heavy on the gore porn. I also like mixing goofy slapstick humor with epic, Lovecraftian fantasy, so I enjoy the Berserk comic books even with the comic relief characters, whereas my friend Zeke couldn’t even stand this mix in Bone.

I figure the best way to analyze this question is to begin with genre art, then work backwards to the stereotypical demographics for that art. Unfortunately, I haven’t actually performed the analysis I’m about to introduce. In order to build a comprehensive treatment, we’d have to get a comprehensive list of demographics, entertainment genres, and the aesthetics we expect to find in those genres, and then match them up as best as possible. And finally, we’d have to present the case in a way that represents the findings without overemphasizing or underemphasizing anything. It will take a while for my intuition to supply data points I’ll be confident with. All I’ve done so far is to create the method, which will have to do for today’s post.

For example: musicals. What emotionality characterizes musicals? Neuroticism, for one. The emotional swings even come out in the deceptive cadences, frequent major/minor key shifts, and the heavy emphasis on the happy/sad emotional axis. Bittersweet, wild swings of emotion with very…sterile narratives, usually. But lately you see the nihilistic aesthetic a lot as well: the bombardment of nonsensical information, where the lesson is that “your pattern-matching capabilities can’t keep up, therefore patterns aren’t real, therefore give up on understanding anything”.

So, reasoning backward to demographics…who likes musicals? Chicks, gays, the upper middle class, high-conscientiousness strivers, and possibly some superstars* on account of their capacity for extreme emotional experiences.

I noticed a long time ago that the bittersweet aesthetic is common to all upper middle class forms of entertainment. I expect this gain/loss emotionality is where they get their notion of “progress”: one thing is lost (sad) but another is gained (happy). And yet nothing really changes, except maybe some people are nicer. Well, nobody said the progress had to be real. If it was, there might actually be consequences. It’s gnostic solipsism (everything is a dream, therefore the only thing that matters is how we react to circumstances).

Using my color aesthetics, it may also be possible to draw aesthetics directly out of the color palettes chosen for genre movies.

E.g. The black+white+red palette is flavored specifically for will+purity+desire. And the same palette is often used in horror, which often deals with the corruption or inversion of will/purity/desire and the resulting consequences. Or in “O Brother Where Art Though” they pull out all the green, so it’s like a world without health or holism.

*I find that I’m a bit more open to complex aesthetics now that my parietal is growing in. So even though I still listen to metal exclusively…classical music can give me that buzz now, if I’m on my game and really paying attention. Generally that’s a function of rest, diet, and exercise.

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6 Responses to Analysis of emotional palettes by demographic

  1. a says:

    Symbols depend on the context. Color meaning depends on the context.
    Yellow can be happiness/energy, sickness, or many other things depending on whats going on.
    We can’t just say RED=X, BLACK=X and be done.
    I can just now articulate that this lack of context is why my intuition has been telling me
    many of your conclusions on symbolic meanings have been incomplete.
    (Like in your color list. Blue= ideals. Sometimes!)
    Anyway, I think you needed to know that since you do so many of these posts.

    > the bittersweet aesthetic is common to all upper middle class forms of entertainment.
    I expect this gain/loss emotionality is where they get their notion of “progress”:
    one thing is lost (sad) but another is gained (happy). And yet nothing really changes,
    except maybe some people are nicer. Well, nobody said the progress had to be real.

    Your cynicism here is unwarranted.
    Life is bittersweet. By its nature ‘bittersweetness’ has the most sub-emotions.

    Lets delve into them a little bit:

    A- Nostalgia:
    1.The happiness of the past + “oh no its gone”.
    Modulating the intensity of either factor greatly changes the felt emotion.
    2. The past as a place of purity, simplicity, good times
    (Because of childhood, myths and beliefs, how memory works, and maybe actual reality)
    3. The past as something that can destroy the future in a deserving way.
    +Many more

    B- Romance.

    1. The fact that your partner IS NOT the actual ideal (nobody is), and you know this,
    yet things are getting momentarily confused.
    2. Its great right now but could go south and hurt you badly.
    3. If its a strong feeling of love, and you are a neurotic, you know it wont last forever.
    PPl change. PPl die. You dont know if you are good enough. etc. etc.
    4. Thats how the neurochemicals of ‘infatuation’ make you feel.

    C- Weird MISC types.
    HERE is where you can find some things that are worth disliking.

    1.”The feeling of maturation from doing something terrible”
    2.”Failure as a learning experience”
    (Necessary framing. Or not. Just get the shit done and dont give up.)
    3.”Losing something while gaining something else”
    (Pretty rare emotion tbh. Most common example would be sloots “trading up”
    Most ppl feel much worse from losing something they already have then the positive from
    gaining something else. )
    + MANY more.

    >It’s gnostic solipsism
    Making your misunderstanding of this particular subset of emotions known is a good way
    to get shitlisted by a good number of ppl.
    (They define much of what is emotionally valuable to the ego and super-ego!)
    This subset of emotions (Besides feelings of duty)
    is also something that underlies the familial bond and is driving much of the good behavior that
    still goes on. Plus, if you are going to succeed with normal women you must understand this stuff.

    Many normies, and MOST of the upper-middle class, are actual human beings that are
    capable of extremely complex emotions. They do not have motives that are nothing but suspect.
    That is a marxist idea. Im not saying you believe that, but considering that
    this sphere is founded upon a victim narrative
    (The good sweet taken-advantage-of proletariat: thals, vs the evil deevil bourgeoisie: melons and normies. And their Original Sin of rape and genocide. Total crazy bullshit.)
    I think it is important to nip that shit in the bud.

    TLDR: “Bittersweet” is how normies know when something is truly meaningful.
    Its not a bad thing, its a good thing.


    Music and meaningz bonus points extra credit:

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpJ0htrzyJ4
    J o u r n e y in the beautiful but unknown.

    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejzlg0SeKnY
    (Not the DNB Pendulum)
    Can be interpreted:
    Nihilismz angst.
    Frustration with a totalitarian (Or just fucked up) society that wants to steal your soul.
    Luciferian hatred for God and his expectations for you.

    Appeals to:
    Neurotics
    Schizos
    Evil

    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_4b_KhM5qA
    B i t t e r s w e e t “dont give up”

    • a says:

      Actually, this is better than green sleevez

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >Symbols depend on the context. Color meaning depends on the context.
      Yellow can be happiness/energy, sickness, or many other things depending on whats going on.
      We can’t just say RED=X, BLACK=X and be done.
      I can just now articulate that this lack of context is why my intuition has been telling me
      many of your conclusions on symbolic meanings have been incomplete.

      Owl also said this. We talked a bit about how there’s a contrast at play: yellow = energy but also corrosion and decay, syntropy/entropy, etc. So I believe you’re correct.

      >Life is bittersweet. By its nature ‘bittersweetness’ has the most sub-emotions.
      Lets delve into them a little bit:

      This is good analysis, very nuanced understanding. I assume you usually keep this sort of thing to yourself.

      >Making your misunderstanding of this particular subset of emotions known is a good way to get shitlisted by a good number of ppl.

      Noted. Will keep it to myself in public fo sho.

      >(They define much of what is emotionally valuable to the ego and super-ego!) This subset of emotions (Besides feelings of duty) is also something that underlies the familial bond and is driving much of the good behavior that still goes on.

      I don’t criticize care/harm morality or emotionality per se, but I do think the modernist palette has been driven to saccharine excess by an all-sugar diet. It may be simply a matter of taste, as I don’t believe one ought to put sugar in tea or coffee.

      >Plus, if you are going to succeed with normal women you must understand this stuff.

      I have to admit they are still an enigma underneath the behavioral evo-psych level. (My mom is ISFJ, which has an Enigma-type relationship with INTJ: http://typelogic.com/pairs.html.) This will catch up with me if I don’t broaden my emotional palette…the problem is that long-term alienation is making me more and more of a deep intuitive (even my secondary function, extraverted thinking, is getting atrophied).

      >Many normies, and MOST of the upper-middle class, are actual human beings that are capable of extremely complex emotions. They do not have motives that are nothing but suspect.

      Yes and no, because I believe all hearts are wicked and they are not an exception. Any difference, by way of social class analysis, would have to be functional or historical.

      >That is a marxist idea. Im not saying you believe that, but considering that
      this sphere is founded upon a victim narrative (The good sweet taken-advantage-of proletariat: thals, vs the evil deevil bourgeoisie: melons and normies. And their Original Sin of rape and genocide. Total crazy bullshit.) I think it is important to nip that shit in the bud.

      I do too, in the sense that we can’t honestly claim to be the “good” people (all hearts wicked, as I said above), but I believe it’s important to understand that 1) there are “sides”, 2) the other side would prefer my failure even if my success would be good for the larger group, and 3) my “side” in the genetic struggle has been losing for 40,000 years and we need to try something different.

      • a says:

        >This is good analysis, very nuanced understanding.
        I assume you usually keep this sort of thing to yourself.

        Thanks, and true- for time and articulation reasons.
        I got a lot of cigars for Christmas so thats what spurred me on
        (Nicotine shuts out low resolution mental noise- which is why schizos love it so much)

        >I don’t criticize care/harm morality or emotionality per se,
        but I do think the modernist palette has been driven to saccharine excess by an all-sugar diet.

        Very true, but the problem is the obsession with happiness instead of meaning.
        Much of bittersweetness is charachterized by deep emotional meaning so I think its mostly good.
        The worst thing bittersweet can do is to make you care deeply about fictional things,
        or send you into an inner world and maybe set a spiral of emotions in effect that can turn
        into serious negative emotions. Both are rare, and would mostly only happen to a high-oppeness neurotic.
        Happiness is charchterized MORE by lack of negativity than presence of positivity
        (Because of how much more powerful negative emotion is to humans).
        Happiness is a USEFUL thing, for productivity and especially effective socialization,
        and I truly believe that unneeded negative information should be avoided, but Happiness
        in and of itself is pretty meaningless. It literally is sugar- dopamine flow nibber.

        >the problem is that long-term alienation is making me more and more of a deep intuitive
        (even my secondary function, extraverted thinking, is getting atrophied).

        Its a serious problem; your biggest, really. Its pretty amazing you get as much done as you
        do.
        Options to solve this: Meetup.com- hiking groups, bible study groups, any kind of group youd like
        Go to other social events in your area and talk to ppl.
        Talk to random ppl, ask them about themselves as much as possible.
        Joining a group would be easiest. Even if it is a cringy group like an anime
        appreciation group… better than nothing, and you dont have to care at all about blowing it.

        I realize now I’ve been so focused on the JP bible series that I haven’t read anything more
        on deep ppl skills or understanding :/
        I’ll start a book right now, will hopefully finish it in a few days along with the biblical series.
        At the end of the day its gonna take some courage man. Good luck, and remember that ppl wont
        kill you. Also do progressive exposure. Go just a little bit past your comfort zone each time,
        and build up your tolerance and ability.

        >Any difference, by way of social class analysis, would have to be functional

        I live in Alabama so the upper middle class here is a much different group than you have
        over there. Your UMC could be worse than your MC or LC, idk.

        >we need to try something different.

        GUTOW!

  2. The Anti-Gnostic says:

    Awesome post.

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