Podcast

On this Very Special After School Episode, Boneflour and Aeoli Pera play Shill or No Shill with Alex Jones, and talk about the diverging paths of Jordan Peterson and Vox Day.

Boneflour did something great with the audio because I was in a loud area and my recording sounds like absolute shite, and you can only hear 50% of what I said. So good on him for being High Energy, High Agency.

Memes provided by Aeoli Pera and glorious Lizard King (long may he reign).

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18 Responses to Podcast

  1. Ø says:

    Dank shiznit, gentlemen.

    Regarding the question of male and female argumentative prowess, I think women are generally going to have an advantage within the sphere of interpersonal relationships or stuff pertaining to them. I think men are going to have the edge in most other contexts, especially when the topic isn’t related to people-related stuff.

    Regarding the choice between Peterson and Vox Day and which one I’d rather have on my Pokemon starter team, I pick Vox because of the skin he’s put in the game by following the truth and naming teh Jooz, doing his own thing and building his own media-franchise as well as the fact that he’s a Christian and isn’t on SSRIs and stuff.

    I haven’t really absorbed or paid attention to a whole lot of Peterson’s content, as from a cursory glance he seems to be retreading a lot of ground that Jung covered (antediluvian Paganism, Zodiacism/Hermetic Philosophy and its relation to psychology, human unconscious, supernatural phenomena, etc), though he does seem to be going about it in a less morally-bankrupt and edgy manner than Jung, which is probably refreshing to a lot of folks.

    I’m certain I’d enjoy Peterson’s stuff more than Vox’s, as I’m not really into fantasy fiction and sci-fi novels and the type of stuff that Day writes. So, if I had to be in a foxhole with one of the two men, it’d be Vox Day–but I’d prefer to be reading a book written by Jordan Peterson in between artillery barrages or whatever.

    Agree with most points made by both Boneflour and Aeoli in the last 5-10 minutes regarding the Glubb cycle and cosmopolitan elite and stuff.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >Regarding the question of male and female argumentative prowess, I think women are generally going to have an advantage within the sphere of interpersonal relationships or stuff pertaining to them. I think men are going to have the edge in most other contexts, especially when the topic isn’t related to people-related stuff.

      Women, particularly as K-selection increases, are basically specialized (weaponized?) for parasitism via relationships. So this breakdown makes sense.

      >I’m not really into fantasy fiction and sci-fi novels

      Big if true. Indicates these appeal to introverted intuition function.

      > So, if I had to be in a foxhole with one of the two men, it’d be Vox Day–but I’d prefer to be reading a book written by Jordan Peterson in between artillery barrages or whatever.

      Unfortunately, I’d prefer neither in both situations.

      • Ø says:

        >Big if true. Indicates these appeal to introverted intuition function.

        I think so. I’ve actually encountered someone noting this correspondence before, I think on celebritytypes.com.

        Designing your blog with a sparse, white background with blue and black text/links is another Ni tell, if you and Koanic are anything to go off of.

  2. Ø says:

    Also Alex Jones-kun obviously BTFOs Ben Shapiro, if for nothing other than the reasons Boneflour mentioned (i.e. The Enquirer Principle; i.e. crackpot journalism having significantly more integrity and accuracy than its mainstream counterpart). Also, Jones’s small Infowars media empire, despite its various observable, alleged, and imagined shortcomings, has been a reliable gateway drug to the real Alt-Right over the past several years, so there’s that.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      Ah, but you haven’t taken the final red pill, which is that everybody is a shill except me, including the Alt-Right, and everything is made of Jews and snake melon lies except my personal metaphysics.

  3. VidereLicet says:

    To : Aeoli Pera,

    I sent you a post yesterday about Alex Jones. What happened to it? The Noosphere’s Wizards of Oz don’t approve of my Alex Jones post? Your controlled-opposition “alternative” media Wizard of Oz boss doesn’t want you featuring my post, so you “have to” CENSOR it? It’s TOO truthful? It’s TOO directly point-blank, TOO fact-based, TOO on-target, it’s TOO straight-to-the-point ; It’s TOO straight-from-the-shoulder and you’re a faggot so you don’t like anything if it’s Straight? Straight bothers you and makes you uncomfortable I see, you sub-beta loser faggot. It’s especially pathetic that someone who was once [supposedly ] a “Manly Man and extremely intelligent with such a high IQ” like you [ supposedly ] once were has obviously devolved into a sub-beta loser faggot, that’s a long fall, from “high IQ intellectual extremely intelligent Manly-Man” to sub-beta loser faggot category, sad, pathetic and sad.

    So you like Alex Jones ALOT more than you’ll ever let on and while claiming not to like him very much you’re actually protecting him from too much scrutiny, protecting him from real scrutiny, so let’s throw up some smoke-and-mirrors to protect Emerick from any REAL scrutiny which is TOO truthful and TOO intelligent and TOO fact-based and TOO directly straight-to-the-point. I see, now I know how you are.

    I know you like ad-hominem slurs, so I’m using ad-hominen slurs on you, you like ad hominem slurs so much I figure you appreciate getting ad-hominem slurs you like so much and appreciate so much thrown back at your face, thrown back at you, u two-face, you stupid sub-beta moron faggot, loser. As you’re two-faced, you’re twice the loser and that’s pathetic, sad and pathetic.

  4. Salvatore says:

    Alex Jones hammed-it-up and sang a song he composed about a black African Somali Muslim immigrant cop killing a White woman — a day BEFORE Justine Damond was killed by a black African Somali Muslim immigrant cop. A DAY BEFORE the Noor/Damond incident.

    As Jones knew at least a day in advance a White woman in America was going to get killed by a black African Somali Muslim immigrant cop, then the Noor/Damond incident was either :

    1 : A Deep State psyops hoax

    Or,

    2 : A real killing. A real killing by criminals, killers, working on their own, not connected to The Deep State, or a Deep State REAL killing

    If it was a Deep State psyops-hoax then Jones is hooked-up-tight with the Deep State. If it was a real killing, then Jones is an accessory to the killing, as he obviously knew in advance the killing was going to take place — he sang a song about it a day BEFORE the killing so he knew In Advance the killing was going to happen — and he didn’t inform the authorities and share the info he had about the upcoming killing so maybe the authorities could have averted the killing. It’s called being complicit in a crime, in this case complicit in a killing, it’s called being an accessory to a crime, in this case, an accessory to a killing.

    So whether 1 or 2, Jones is disgusting. There’s also the possibility the killing was a Deep State REAL killing, in which case Jones is hooked-up-tight with Deep State killers. Whatever it was, Alex Jones knew in advance it was going to happen and in advance composed a song about it and was a real ham as he sang his song about it a DAY BEFORE it happened. So any way you slice the cake, Jones comes out looking totally reprehensible and disgusting and detestable.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >Whatever it was, Alex Jones knew in advance it was going to happen

      I agree that your conclusion follows if this is true, but the timing you describe only indicates it’s plausible and not certain he knew about it beforehand. There are gradations of Deep State involvement from McDonald’s cashier all the way up to Epstein Island’s suppliers, and it’s not clear where Jones falls.

    • Heaviside says:

      The “Deep State” doesn’t do “hoaxes”, they just kill people. It’s much simpler that way.

  5. Salvatore says:

    Uhhh, excuse me but composing a song about a killing before it happens and singing the song you compose about a killing A DAY BEFORE THE KILLING means you knew IN ADVANCE a killing was going to take place and is not only plausible Jones knew IN ADVANCE it is CERTAIN 100% he knew IN ADVANCE. He knew IN ADVANCE, you admit that, yet after you admit Jones knew IN ADVANCE of the killing you say it’s “not certain he knew it beforehand”. Of course he knew he knew about the killing beforehand, he composed and sang about the killing BEFOREHAND.

    He knew about it beforehand but it’s not certain he knew about it beforehand. Very double-minded of you.

    As far as “gradations of Deep State involvement” is concerned, whatever gradation of involvement in the Deep State Jones fits into, he’s involved in the Deep State in some way, otherwise he would have not known in advance that the Noor/Damond incident was going to happen, but he did know IN ADVANCE.

    And what difference does it make what gradation or level Jones is in with the Deep State? He claims to be against the New World Order yet is involved at some gradation with the Deep State and the Deep State he’s involved with on whatever gradation is ALL about bringing the New World order to fruition. That’s the point, whatever gradation or level he’s connected to the Deep State, that he is NOT who he says he is, his motivations and goals are not what he says they are. He claims not to be controlled opposition and claims to be opposed to the Deep State, yet he’s connected to and involved with the Deep State at whatever gradation or level, you admit that, so he’s NOT opposed to the Deep State and not opposed to the New World Order, otherwise he wouldn’t want to be involved with the Deep State at any level or gradation.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      I’m saying it’s plausible but there are other possible explanations. I mean, the timing of a Somalian cop killing a white lady also coincided with the first Somalian becoming a cop, coincided with Somalian population growing, coincided with Somalian troublemakimg coming into general awareness as a thing. How many days in the last two years have white women have been killed by Somalian men? So even pure coincidence is plausible.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >He claims to be against the New World Order yet is involved at some gradation with the Deep State and the Deep State he’s involved with on whatever gradation is ALL about bringing the New World order to fruition.

      Look, most people are not as simple as you’re imagining them to be, and especially not people who engage in political action. Assuming they are is why people on the Alt-Right are constantly disavowing each other as shills. For example, there’s a chance Ben Shapiro is getting a check from the taxpayers, but it’s just as likely he’s acting out his nature and never needed a Deep State handler to tell him what to think or say.

  6. SirHamster says:

    > but it’s just as likely he’s acting out his nature and never needed a Deep State handler to tell him what to think or say.

    Following AC’s observations/speculations on how that the implausible is used as cover, DS probably selects him because this is his nature. They handle without handling.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      Look, I understand there are actually people getting paid to push a perspective, and that the number will surprise us (e.g. 1/3 in former soviet bloc). My point is that’s not grounds to say Jones is getting paid by the government (unless you count pussy, IIRC).

      • SirHamster says:

        Was thinking Shapiro, not AJ. Is an annoying aspect of the DS concept is that if true, they hack things so that you can’t trust “normal” reasoning tools and heuristics.

        “That’s too complex” (but doesn’t rule out it’s true)

  7. Heaviside says:

    Alex Jones is an awful Zionist, but worse than that, he’s a DoD-controlled military intelligence asset.

    https://isgp-studies.com/alex-jones-of-infowars-is-cia-army-disinformation

    Here is discussing with Naval intelligence agent George Noory how great it was that he was able to participate in a massive psyop to get Trump in office.

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