Jehu lies to Ahab’s priests

I’m doubtful that any more of the holy rollers will be convinced by piling up a list of examples of men of God lying to their enemies, so collecting these merely serves to shame them.

I’d like the rest of you to ponder the implications: why I would emphasize this point at the expense of my reputation as a sincere person? Why would it be so important to convince people that the morality of deception follows the same rules as murder? (And yes, that does imply that self-deception is comparable to suicide. What do you suppose it implies about the “father of lies”?)

18 Then Jehu brought all the people together and said to them, “Ahab served Baal a little; Jehu will serve him much. 19 Now summon all the prophets of Baal, all his servants and all his priests. See that no one is missing, because I am going to hold a great sacrifice for Baal. Anyone who fails to come will no longer live.” But Jehu was acting deceptively in order to destroy the servants of Baal.

20 Jehu said, “Call an assembly in honor of Baal.” So they proclaimed it. 21 Then he sent word throughout Israel, and all the servants of Baal came; not one stayed away. They crowded into the temple of Baal until it was full from one end to the other. 22 And Jehu said to the keeper of the wardrobe, “Bring robes for all the servants of Baal.” So he brought out robes for them.

23 Then Jehu and Jehonadab son of Rekab went into the temple of Baal. Jehu said to the servants of Baal, “Look around and see that no one who serves the Lord is here with you—only servants of Baal.” 24 So they went in to make sacrifices and burnt offerings. Now Jehu had posted eighty men outside with this warning: “If one of you lets any of the men I am placing in your hands escape, it will be your life for his life.”

25 As soon as Jehu had finished making the burnt offering, he ordered the guards and officers: “Go in and kill them; let no one escape.” So they cut them down with the sword. The guards and officers threw the bodies out and then entered the inner shrine of the temple of Baal. 26 They brought the sacred stone out of the temple of Baal and burned it. 27 They demolished the sacred stone of Baal and tore down the temple of Baal, and people have used it for a latrine to this day.

28 So Jehu destroyed Baal worship in Israel. 29 However, he did not turn away from the sins of Jeroboam son of Nebat, which he had caused Israel to commit—the worship of the golden calves at Bethel and Dan.

30 The Lord said to Jehu, “Because you have done well in accomplishing what is right in my eyes and have done to the house of Ahab all I had in mind to do, your descendants will sit on the throne of Israel to the fourth generation.” 31 Yet Jehu was not careful to keep the law of the Lord, the God of Israel, with all his heart. He did not turn away from the sins of Jeroboam, which he had caused Israel to commit.

2 Kings 10

In the next one of these I’ll address Koanic’s criticism of my previous post on the subject.

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10 Responses to Jehu lies to Ahab’s priests

  1. Boneflour says:

    Oh, hey, that’s a much more clear example. Lie to your enemies to round them all up, God says good job smashing all those idols and prophets of Baal. All’s fair in love and war.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      The problem people have with this is it puts the lie to the idea that misleading people to their demise with selective representations of the truth is morally superior to falsifying the truth to the same end. And that’s because the reproductive strategies of most people requires both deception and self-righteousness. But we’ll get there, baby steps.

  2. glosoli says:

    >So they went in to make sacrifices and burnt offerings.
    >As soon as Jehu had finished making the burnt offering

    There was no lie, there was a sacrifice.
    After that there was slaughter of the evil child-eaters.
    Well Played Jehovah.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >There was no lie, there was a sacrifice.

      “Ahab served Baal a little; Jehu will serve him much. ”

      That was a lie.

      • glosoli says:

        Jehu assemble all of Baal’s followers for the greatest Baal worship ceremony possible, literally everyone was there, Baal no doubt felt really pleased with the turnout, all his followers worshiping him.

        Jehu delivered on his words, couldn’t have done any better, no lie whatsoever.

        Then they were all slaughtered, happy days, evil people, baby-eaters. Baal was then sad, tough luck Baal, don’t be messing with Jehovah.

        No wonder Jehovah was delighted, well rid of that lot, well played Jehu.

        • Aeoli Pera says:

          >Jehu delivered on his words, couldn’t have done any better, no lie whatsoever.

          Do you feel that misrepresenting an obvious fact will convince anyone of your conviction to the truth?

          • Fox says:

            Some people can’t see obvious facts because they are glued to assumptions contradicted by those facts.
            “The good side does not lie” and “my side is the good side” are sufficient assumptions to make your interpretation impossible to accept, no matter how obvious it is.
            Note that this is the famous “bending everything else to fit your foregone conclusion”.

          • glosoli says:

            A fact is a fact, and you’re still digging.

            But the atheists are on your side, it’s only the Christians who aren’t. Well done.

      • Mycroft Jones says:

        True, Jehu didn’t serve Baal anywhere near as much as Ahab did.

      • SirHamster says:

        > >There was no lie, there was a sacrifice.
        > “Ahab served Baal a little; Jehu will serve him much. ”
        > That was a lie.

        The thing here is that “Baal” literally means lord in Hebrew.
        http://biblehub.com/hebrew/1167.htm

        It’d be like saying, “I serve Allah”. (literally God in Arabic)

        In English, that’s understood to mean the Islamic concept of God. In Arabic? There’s ambiguity that can be used as a vehicle for lying by omission.

        Deception is clearly used throughout the Bible to serve God’s interests. Various men in the Bible have lied directly or indirectly (mah sister-wife).

        It’s not clear to me that anyone *needs* to lie, but there has certainly been cases where the lies seem to lack condemnation.

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