Koanic has gone ahead and declared me a heretic, which isn’t very nice. I don’t see him making that criticism of Jim when he talks about following “the will of Gnon”. But it’s also to be expected.
Jehu didn’t lie. He spoke to mislead via ambiguity, as did Jesus, [Ed: this is a straight-up lie, by the way.] albeit with a greater shade of deception than Jesus employed. Furthermore, Jehovah does not endorse Jehu’s means, only his results.
Aside from flagrantly lying to make this case (Jehu says “I will worship Baal” which is an untrue statement made purposefully to deceive the priests of Baal so Jehu could murder them), Koanic is making an argument easily debunked by basic Bible literacy.
To make explicit his implication here, Koanic is saying that God would not have endorsed Jehu’s means if he had been asked directly. We have a clear-cut, direct counterexample to this implication:
18 The king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, “Didn’t I tell you that he never prophesies anything good about me, but only bad?”
19 Micaiah continued, “Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne with all the multitudes of heaven standing around him on his right and on his left. 20 And the Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?’
“One suggested this, and another that. 21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the Lord and said, ‘I will entice him.’
22 “‘By what means?’ the Lord asked.
“‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,’ he said.
“‘You will succeed in enticing him,’ said the Lord. ‘Go and do it.’
23 “So now the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The Lord has decreed disaster for you.”
So here we have God endorsing both the means and the end.
Now I expect Koanic will accept the penalty he would apply to heresy, which is the traditional punishment given to people who make false accusations.
The Bible says otherwise. Aeoli is in heresy, and should refrain from commenting on the Bible except in tentative language, as he clearly does not understand it.
If I seem a little blue it’s because I’m holding my breath.