Statement of the problem re: neanderthal identity politics

I’ve alluded to this but never articulated it. There are three parts, as far as I can tell.

1. Neanderthal is K, sapiens is R. Therefore, sapiens cannot be taught to prefer a K environment.

2. The female neanderthal sexual selection mechanism appears to be either extinct or negligible.

My deep intuition says this may be because it’s a female group process, and you’d have to get enough female neanderthals together to make it work. So, rather than the orangutan style of a female wandering into the male’s territory, you’d have a group of females deciding who would make cute couples, then pushing the young women into the respective male territories.

3. Sapiens group selection prefers high thal admixture (e.g. the progress of mathematics during wartime) but individual selection prefers low admixture, resulting in a slow (but established) elimination of thal genes over millenia.

The root problem appears to be the low rate of female neanderthal phenotypes. Basically, we can’t form our own group like a normal race can. And that’s leaving aside the apparent inability to engage in group action—even if that problem were solved, we couldn’t form a functional breeding population. Neanderthal drives are extremely individualistic yet presuppose high-trust tribes.

That said, any sort of alliance with white nationalism may be impossible because it may not be possible to convince cro magnon that it’s okay to be neanderthal (i.e. to exist, eat, breed). It’s the same problem cro magnon now faces in Sapestown Jewtopia, where it’s NOT OKAY to exist and be white at the same time. Cro magnon is okay with neanderthals existing among him so long as they shut up, solve the problems, and accept their abuse as part of their station in the natural order. The problem, of course, is that many iterations of this lead to diminished admixture, and cro magnon ceases to be special. He returns to the sapiens baseline, the only real difference being a preference for meth and standing in lines over weed and chimpouts.

That return is what we’ve seen in Europeans in the last 500 years or so. A common man in England in 1600 would have been diagnosed with Asperger’s today. Never mind the extraordinary men of autism like Newton at the high end, considered batshit* even by the standards of the eccentric British gentry of the day. But this was merely due to group selection from warfare, not from any sort of problem solving directed toward the genetic problem.

I think this is one question where I can’t hope to find the answer. It has the feeling of a high-caliber problem, whereas I mostly thrive in low-caliber humanities questions which merely require a bit of pathological honesty.

*In their defense he absolutely was the original Terry Davis. (Buncha glow-in-the-dark CIA niggers.)

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13 Responses to Statement of the problem re: neanderthal identity politics

  1. kapy53 says:

    I think female k selection still exists, we just don’t see it. They either become cat ladies or marry fairly young.

    It’s also possible that K selection females are also just going with the flow of modern society and are slowly feeling the pain of lying to themselves.

  2. Not a sape says:

    It’s hard not to feel blackpilled about this, I can’t see any other solution than all out war but that would require power, numbers and the absence of MAD.

  3. The existential problem: Western philosophers don’t breed well. I think the problem is critical mass. The odd philosopher type is, I think, psychologically abused in boyhood by parents et al. who are simply less human. Social conscientiousness is total subjugation with mass normalization of subhumans as human. I expect that after enough philosopher fodder is shot into the wall of evolution, a philosopher beachhead will form. The potential for overwhelming evidence of compulsive base subversion informing the creators of a next Western civilization makes me cautiously optimistic about the human future some 100s of years beyond my death. I am a nihilist about my chances, which is to say I am a realist about ever expressing my civilized potential. Such is not my only potential, and that is the critical realization, that feet of clay will not support a gold crown, that serving cold revenge is a requisite seminal pleasure from time to time.

  4. Aeoli Pera says:

    >It’s hard not to feel blackpilled about this, I can’t see any other solution than all out war but that would require power, numbers and the absence of MAD.

    In the final analysis, after a person has been pushed to the brink, there are only two possible dispositions toward one’s fellow humanity: all-in or fall-out. That’s why Trigun is such a good show. To the monkey brain, there is no difference between suicide and genocide.

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  6. bicebicebice says:

    “That said, any sort of alliance with white nationalism may be impossible because it may not be possible to convince cro magnon that it’s okay to be neanderthal (i.e. to exist, eat, breed). It’s the same problem cro magnon now faces in Sapestown Jewtopia, where it’s NOT OKAY to exist and be white at the same time. Cro magnon is okay with neanderthals existing among him so long as they shut up, solve the problems, and accept their abuse as part of their station in the natural order. The problem, of course, is that many iterations of this lead to diminished admixture, and cro magnon ceases to be special. He returns to the sapiens baseline, the only real difference being a preference for meth and standing in lines over weed and chimpouts.”

    big if true

  7. AP, that promises to be interesting reading. I wish I could, and maybe when I need mental diversion I will read a small bit and repeat. I have learned the hard way that the correct priorities for me(n?): mental/physical health -> financial health -> worldliness. To wit, I am miserably broke, past halfway in expected years, and require actionable info because I require social and material power stat. I think I am .5 to 1.0 SD behind you in IQ. I typically have to unpack your pithy writing, which is fine. I don’t like having to dumb it down for others who can’t actually appreciate my thoughts and I write for me first on the topic of social truths. I know what I know from being a grinder. If I knew how to write the next 50 Shades of Grey, I certainly would.

    The idea of a Genius Famine, and here I was thinking of a Subhuman Plague (to include whytes, part of my critical paradigm shift). Maybe the law of conservation regarding resources and the life supported by those limited resources makes the two concepts equivalent except for diametric emphases. Subhuman affairs are always win-lose (another aspect of my paradigm shift). I think the cure, however effected, is winning. Thoughtful producers or ‘geniuses’ or high culture men animalistically defeating the parasitic animals or ‘morons’ that are smart at winning as they do or non/low culture. I think pretty much everyone here was fooled into camaraderie with the enemy. I hope the digital record of feminism and feminity can never be erased from human perception, along with other strains of baseness. Good luck to us all. The worm will turn one day.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >If I knew how to write the next 50 Shades of Grey, I certainly would.

      Here, you can use mine. I had it written down in the Discord already.

      Title: College Bound

      Cover is a picture of a gal in a prestigious-looking nerdgirl outfit tied up in ivy, struggling to take the hand of a blonde dude who’s reaching for it, but there’s another hand coming from off-camera holding the ivy, trying to pull her the other way and down. Story follows from that dynamic. You’ll sell about a billion copies.

      The hand coming from off-camera has to be a bit darker too. Maybe the guys could be dressed to match the internal struggle the gal is facing. “Should I go work in X prestigious firm or go to graduate school at Y prestigious university?”

      Aside from all that, plagiarize. You think these thots care? I know a gal who reads 50 of these a month, I doubt repetitiveness is an issue. Literally a billion copies.

      Also, she told me that all of the guys are “billionaires plus one other sexy thing” now, so you’ll have to make one or both guys absurdly rich.

  8. Aeoli Pera says:

    Side thought, I imagine the new billionaire requirement is a side effect of female economic independence. If she’s going to feel powerless still, then the guy has to have so much money that she still “feels like nothing in his presence”.

  9. Texan TT says:

    Alas, for we have lost the Ent-wives.

  10. Just Call Me Fishmail says:

    You’re assuming that the low numbers are a bug, not a feature.

    In reality hybrid mankind has always been dragged kicking and screaming into futures they never collectively imagined precisely because of the competence of this almost invisible remainder.

    So here’s an interesting thought experiment for you: in what ways do groups of Cro-Mags simulate the higher intelligence potentials of Neanderthals?

    Does it take a thousand, ten thousand, a hundred thousand, or even a million baseline Cro-Mags to simulate one profoundly intelligent Neanderthal?

    Is the simulation a matter of effect rather than fundamentals, in which the Million Cro-Mag March Toward Progress winds up being oblivious to threshold constraints that it cannot solve or even imagine collectively?

    Would this kind of simulated group intelligence have a power law constraint that would preclude it from performing certain types of intellectual work that would require an even higher intelligence? At what point do the raw numbers of people simulating higher intelligences begin to work against the principle?

    More to the point, is the Cro-Mag technology known as “the city” less capable and more constrained than a small collective of Neanderthals who have been able to exclude themselves so they may operate with fewer limits?

    We may be expecting too much out of civilisation, in other words. It’s fully capable of civilising the savage beasts of the Cro-Mag, but in so doing it operates as a group mind of oppression toward the Neanderthal who will eventually do his best to escape its direct control.

    Sometimes we wind up in power anyway, BTW: we’re really good at forming coherent policy to keep the savages in line when all of their other options have failed.

    There’s still an opportunity for you in Management. :-)

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