The Treestump Question (TQ)

Apologies to Bice for starting things off on a rhetorical foot.

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I’m raising this question because a turtle ought to be able to answer it. That’s why they call it “turtling” after all.

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5 Responses to The Treestump Question (TQ)

  1. bicebicebice says:

    “The TQ”…LOL!
    You can tie that into the other Q that starts with a J, I think what has been hashed out in the forum is the best answer right now, society = female(-civilization), civilization = male(-society) at least according to me. Civilization enables us to have these electronic things and communicate but it was niched-out by a very small society of high functioning IQ handicapped people. I watched this docu and it was interesting because social media = created by the socially inept leading to why it is so toxic aka normies can’t literally handle the technology leading to neverending butthurt and eventually suicide, which is a scapegoat of sorts because it was modeled after the normies themselves just like a shitpost is a caricature of a normie, they are the fuel.

    Itz sort of like waltz into wizards laboratory and get evaporated or drown in the chocolate river of all the chocolate you can eat while the oompa loompa (melons) sing and dance. K life is not for the r, and r life is not for the K.This is the true black&white nobilid pill, everything you liked is still there and even more accessible. They say one in 40 is autistic now meaning 200 million people that won’t change with the times having enough weight to hold down good culture and good ways, and those are static and not changing, such as an autistic kid being appaled at lying because “itz cool, yo”.
    Whiteoids were never into 1950s Americana nor were they into top hats and steam trains and art deco with roaring swagger, they were just conditioned into it.

    Hate society until the A.I will settle the question that it was actually shit after 1950, except for the video games the cartoons and the *snort* anime. But, any autisté will be disappoint over the fact that people were never sincere about being comfy and classy, as a Tex headline said “going autistic – words are poison”, which is why a legit retard can learn any math formula instantly and any musical note instantly. Why? The question is how many meanings can the word “hello” take on, how many nuances, how many contexts? That number is almost infinite and with every word eventually meaning “good” or “bad”, those retards quickly drop out and that is understandable.

    However I know what a better society is, it was there just years ago, and optimal society was decades ago. The Treestump is Civilization. Right now the big city social life is just an ATM and if you get sentimental to itz current state you die.

  2. bicebicebice says:

    Forgot to post the “docu”/interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpvv_ooqJik

  3. Boneflour says:

    Thanks for that video.

    I think to summarize Bice, the idea is that there are people who are so far gone that they are unreachable by our current efforts. Misery is comfortable and addictive. If you pull them out of a hole they will swan dive into another one… and the only difference is that it will be Your Fault instead of Society’s Fault that they are in a hole to begin with.

    Is inviting a fighting age male ‘Syrian refugee’ into your daughters room because “I can save him!” charity or arrogance? Is telling a meth head “I don’t have any money for you, sorry” running away from things you hate?

    We already agree on circles, the question is where those circles should be drawn. I don’t think anyone here is saying “If you don’t spend 80% of your time and money on rehabbing meth heads and/or saving the entire continent of Africa, you are running from your duty”… Which implies an upper limit on how big the circle should be.

    Where should the circles be drawn? For a while, the Vox Day crowd was at “sit on my ass and let Xyklon sort it out” AKA damning two generations to eat themselves alive while the ‘moral superiors’ jack off poolside.

    The extreme is a group of one, AKA “anyone who can’t perfectly follow my 7000 rules to the letter deserves to be eaten by ghouls”

    Even Vox Day, Heartiste, etc. are coming around to the idea that maybe “let the weak fall” doesn’t leave a lot of people left. I think the small end of the circle is larger than that.

  4. Boneflour says:

    Thinking about it further, what Aeoli’s rhetoric points to is not the Treestump Question, but the Gohan Question. Given the power and ability to fight and defeat evil for the sake of the planet, isn’t it kind of pussing out to be a peacenick? I mean, even Krillin is out there.

  5. bicebicebice says:

    “I think to summarize Bice, the idea is that there are people who are so far gone that they are unreachable by our current efforts. Misery is comfortable and addictive. If you pull them out of a hole they will swan dive into another one… and the only difference is that it will be Your Fault instead of Society’s Fault that they are in a hole to begin with.”

    The hikikomori complex is the most extreme version of this, but again paired with NEETs having the resources and time of histories royal courts, and some kavemen maturing very late, croms maturing as teenagers whilst Tex is just a teenager now at the tender age of 50 something, itz just a matter of time with some people can’t rush it and in context there is nothing wrong here, except actual literal unironic unmaturity as in an immature person aka childish because actually a child.
    However, if a person never stops this behavior he is a legit retard or a natural born tyrant.

    “We already agree on circles, the question is where those circles should be drawn I think the small end of the circle is larger than that.”

    Yes. If 1 in 40 are autistic as the new numbers say, that is 200 million of todays 8 billion, that is 500 million of 20 billion, and that is the number the elites want. if you can’t entertain yourself in an automated world then you are a mental peon, monkeys in the forest can find it amusing swooshing around the trees flinging shit, and then you have sapes who climb the walls of their apartments on sundays because they can’t occupy themselves outside of the work which they claim to hate.
    Weak becomes something different in our times.
    Then again you can’t fake effort unless you use drugs and the people that come around will find a way to do so because the internet is, apart from being a whorehouse, also a place of learning, typing “better life” into google isn’t hard. Can’t force a guy to win nor should one, never feel sorry for a grown ass man, but a parent failing to raise a child that is something else completely. Should the righteous man thus then step in and start smacking chillums? If you cross paths with it you should, but you can’t go looking for it all the time and itz not your job to do so. I have done so and everyone was better off for it but I don’t look for it.

    But that is not the answer Aeoli wants, what he wants is more along the lines of “how to save x and why dont you want to” such as; school, college, government sectors, the inner city broadly in every city, and having ridden public transportation in north america myself I can see why that is a question.
    I never knew what “inner city problems” meant before the ooga booga invasion of sweden, stockholm turned into a shithole, and swedish patriots teamed up with polish patriots and chased the scum away from the city centre. This was the response the next day.
    https://z.cdn-expressen.se/images/45/2a/452af51ef8f145159618004969bcf9ba/16×9/original.jpg I have the full image saved but can’t be arsed to find it, yes, it is a woman holding that. This was the response, some people liked having those sapes ran off, but 87% of swedes voted for ooga boogery so the state has a mandate to enforce the will of the willingless. Alas, people stopped chasing away the groids. Of course swedish chillums don’t carry pistols(usa) nor swords (uk), so use discretion. Most true people born and bred in Stockholm has moved away, this is very true for my area, where the newcomers who paid hefty prices are tearing the area apart because it must reflect them now, imagine those horrible images of modern art replacing old art, from soul to soulless. No real people to protect, no reason to do so, and you can mange it yourself, they can’t however and when they get enriched you just laugh at them. Fuck em, in the uk they were the hipsters ten years ago and in america the shitlibs who voted for obongo, this shit has been stewing for a decade.

    But, as a whole big phenoma of the absolute state of society, with the shitty people inhabiting the west IQ decline along with everything decline, what started as a rescue operation becomes a salvage operation. Here is a good analogy that explains everything; the alt-right son of the republican boomer is very displeased with his father hiring cheap mexican labor because it steals american jobs (and all those other things that follows in his wake that he does not like), he then drives to the taco restaurant in his german car to meet up with his atheist mutt-friends to discuss dads treason, and they all agree that he is a cucked boomer, whilst the munch on beaner food served by beaners, showing pictures of their soon to be asian gf (and nothing follows in that wake, according to them, “its not the same thing”. But it be what it do.)
    Left-Center-Right = sapery. Shit apples from shit trees, itz literally in the bibble.

    That is the good thing about the TQ, civilization as in logistics and technology is not dead, and if you want to act as a mini society with good old morals and values you can do that just don’t expect it to be easy and don’t expect anyone to thank you for it, also don’t travel to an island of savages and PREACH because sapes – sapes never changes.

    “Thinking about it further, what Aeoli’s rhetoric points to is not the Treestump Question, but the Gohan Question. Given the power and ability to fight and defeat evil for the sake of the planet, isn’t it kind of pussing out to be a peacenick? I mean, even Krillin is out there.”

    Get the TQ first then choose your battle wisely and always remember that good people will create good places to live or as tex said “the inner expression of a race of men will always manifest itself in the outside world surrounding them”. muh brainwashing only works on people who have no brains, or are just natural born sapes.

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