Edenic typings of characters in Lawrence of Arabia

These are based on the personalities of the characters, as played by the actors, and not necessarily related to the physiognomies of the actors themselves. It’s an extremely melonhead movie, so pretty much every major character has some melon in them.

T.E. Lawrence: Arch MM
Mr. Dryden: Snake MM
Sherif Ali: MT
Auda Abu Tayi: TM
Prince Feisal: Nobilid
General Allenby: Bigeye MM
Turkish Bey: Degenerate owl MM

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12 Responses to Edenic typings of characters in Lawrence of Arabia

  1. Obadiah says:

    TE Lawrence himself looks like an MT with sociopath chin.

    It seems like a very M-back film; I need to get around to watching it.

  2. kensuimo says:

    Fauxc

    Backswept

    Indeterminate

    Correlating with aspiepath/general mouth weirdness:
    “There is considerable evidence that Lawrence was a masochist. He wrote in his description of the Dera’a beating that “a delicious warmth, probably sexual, was swelling through me,” and he also included a detailed description of the guards’ whip in a style typical of masochists’ writing.[148] In later life, Lawrence arranged to pay a military colleague to administer beatings to him,[149] and to be subjected to severe formal tests of fitness and stamina.[150] John Bruce first wrote on this topic, including some other claims that were not credible, but Lawrence’s biographers regard the beatings as established fact.[151] French novelist André Malraux admired Lawrence but wrote that he had a “taste for self-humiliation, now by discipline and now by veneration; a horror of respectability; a disgust for possessions”.[152]

    Psychologist John E. Mack sees a possible connection between Lawrence’s masochism and the childhood beatings that he had received from his mother[153] for routine misbehaviours.[154] His brother Arnold thought that the beatings had been given for the purpose of breaking his brother’s will.[154] Angus Calder suggested in 1997 that Lawrence’s apparent masochism and self-loathing might have stemmed from a sense of guilt over losing his brothers Frank and Will on the Western Front, along with many other school friends, while he survived.[155]”

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >André Malraux admired Lawrence but wrote that he had a “taste for self-humiliation, now by discipline and now by veneration; a horror of respectability; a disgust for possessions”.[152]

      These are typically very gay, but I’d suggest he wasn’t gay. (https://www.firstworldwar.com/features/telawrence.htm) In which case, the behaviors associated with gayness would give us a very interesting look at the causal side of the picture.

      >Psychologist John E. Mack sees a possible connection between Lawrence’s masochism and the childhood beatings that he had received from his mother[153] for routine misbehaviours.[154] His brother Arnold thought that the beatings had been given for the purpose of breaking his brother’s will.[154]

      Extreme female abuse in early life could easily produce behaviors that are typically associated with male abuse.

      >Angus Calder suggested in 1997 that Lawrence’s apparent masochism and self-loathing might have stemmed from a sense of guilt over losing his brothers Frank and Will on the Western Front, along with many other school friends, while he survived.[155]”

      Unlikely.

  3. Obadiah says:

    https://donswaim.com/ripley-lawrence.htm

    “Although Ripley never wrote directly of his feelings for T.E. Lawrence, there’s a peculiar recipe in his cookbook inserted between one for Bucks County beef stew and one for macaroni and cheese. In mid-twentieth century Pennsylvania, demand for mid-eastern cuisine was unheard of, yet he included a recipe for TEL bread, an Arab confection. Directions called for extensive dough whipping, and several yeast risings in order to experience the TEL, Tender flavor, Ethereal aroma, and Lecherous craving this hot concoction evokes.” T.E.L. himself would approve.”

  4. Obadiah says:

    Laddy was a bit of a poofter m8

  5. Obadiah says:

    https://www.firstworldwar.com/features/telawrence.htm

    “The Ottoman Turks were infamous for inflicting it throughout the Great War on captured enemy troops, beating and gang raping enemy officers often as a matter of due course. Prisons and garrisons often had personnel who specialized in this abuse, although there was nothing homosexual about it.

    The Turkish soldiers perpetrating this war crime certainly never considered themselves gay, like male rapists in prison the act has nothing to do with the sexual orientation of the attacker or victim. “It’s not about sexual gratification, rather a sexual aggressor using somebody else as a means of expressing their own power and control”. [1]

    It was a remarkable manifestation of courage, perhaps cathartic release, that Lawrence detailed what happened to him in his book Seven Pillars of Wisdom in 1926. Then as now the fear of being labelled homosexual as a result of such disclosure was a legitimate fear, society having the tendency of blaming the victim of sexual assault rather than the perpetrator.

    Homosexuality was a taboo subject at that time, same sex rape was even more taboo. The suspicion Lawrence was homosexual is likely to have been a natural by-product of his shocking disclosure, some readers finding a homo-erotic undertone to his retelling of events.”

    I think readers finding “a homo-erotic undertone to his retelling of events” probably had something to do with his self-described reaction to the experience of being tortured as a POW as, ““a delicious warmth, probably sexual… swelling through me”.

    He was a brave man (just admitting the sexual stuff is brave, to say nothing of his military career) but also a pretty abnormal one.

  6. Treb says:

    An interesting composite portrait of the man is found in ‘TE Lawrence by his Friends’.

    And the real Faisal certainly looks nobilid; would you consider him a type case?

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      He looks noble, but IIRC the type requires more socket depth. We might need to adjust it because you can tell Faisal was born to be a king from the nose alone.

  7. Obadiah says:

    Faisal appears to have been a descendant of the Fiendlord Magus himself:

    “Faisal was born in Mecca, Ottoman Empire[2] (in present-day Saudi Arabia) in 1885,[2] the third son of Hussein bin Ali, the Grand Sharif of Mecca.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharif_of_Mecca

    The Sharif of Mecca (Arabic: شريف مكة‎, Sharīf Makkah) or Hejaz (Arabic: شريف الحجاز‎, Sharīf al-Ḥijāz) was the title of the leader of the Sharifate of Mecca, traditional steward of the holy cities of Mecca and Medina and the surrounding Hejaz. The term sharif means “noble” in Arabic and is used to describe the descendants of Prophet Muhammad’s grandson al-Hassan ibn Ali.”

    Very interesting, Edenically-relevant film

  8. Treb says:

    “And, sons of Islam, it may be that thou shall learn at journey’s end
    Who walks thy garden eve on eve, and bows his head, and calls thee, Friend”

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