List of eugenic vs. spiteful narrative elements

Several years ago, I bought a big old KJV Bible from a Salvation Army for a dollar (mostly because I liked the pictures and hadn’t quite kicked my bibliophilic addiction to keeping big old books around yet).

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Here it is next to my keyboard for size reference. (You can click through any of the pics in this post for bigger versions.)

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I try to read the Bible once per year, and this copy is the one I’m tackling in 2020. There’s a lot of material in the front matter and appendices from a more civilized era.

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Lol, wives and children, what a bunch of cucks! Similarly, it’s just assumed you’re the sort of group-selected person who would want to record your family lineage.

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It’s a throwback to a bygone age of kin-selecting morality, when the institution of the church was not filled with spiteful mutants hijacking the Western tradition of altruistic punishment (ref. Kmac, CofC) with narratives about anti-natalism, self-sufficiency, and xenophilia.

To expand on something Bice said recently…

quickest self-help is called the ten commandments coupled with staying away from the seven deadly sins…. entire civilzations were built on those foundations

…this makes it an excellent reference for a list of eugenic virtues and spiteful vices sanctioned by traditional church authorities:

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Narratives which promote the behaviors in the left column may be identified as “moral” in the eugenic sense, whereas narratives which promote behaviors in the right column may identified as “evil” in the dysgenic sense.

As usual with such things, I’d recommend judging yourself and people important to you on a 1-5 scale using these lists. If you find yourself waffling because e.g. “sometimes you have to be disagreeable”, keep in mind you’re just measuring super-k, not actual morality. We’d expect extremely high-IQ people and geniuses, being higher in testosterone and therefore tending to fast life history traits and autism, to express a fair number of traits in the right column.

The left column is really just letting you know which of your traits are group-selected (e.g. loyalty and the right column is letting you know which of your traits are either individually selected (e.g. disloyalty) or simply dysgenic (e.g. imbecility).

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28 Responses to List of eugenic vs. spiteful narrative elements

  1. bicebicebice says:

    such a copy should be given to every child in the west at confirmation inb4 heresy such a majestic and engaging/interactive book really speaks to you even before you read it. mass produce that shit asap niggah i’ll buy a copy for 1 hunnered to your 1 dollar what a steal! almost feels like a congratulations is in order also says a lot about the destruction of america where you can pick up that for a buck before it gets incinerated due to space…. if this is still produced please post a link!

    I give this post 1 bluepill 1 redpill 1 whitepill and 1 blackpill

  2. MM says:

    Well, the Dutton videos were good.

  3. MM says:

    I am not sure what your ultimate organizing principle is with this and the whole breeding thing in general. (RE: ‘Chad Calvinists bulls pls impregnate my wife because my semen is weak’ poast that I wrote a response to)

    I could agree with this Bible list pretty well as a measure for normal people, with caveats, but certainly an agreeable, doubtless, trusting, merciful, conscientious, high IQ person sounds like the most destructive intra racial phenotype I can think of at the moment.

    Sure, those characteristics are great if you come from a good back-ground, but as you know the left is ascendant culturally, and is PRO at flipping kids (in several ways, unfortunately…).

    So, if you aren’t disagreeable and suspicious I don’t really see how your kids stay conservative unless you live in an insular religious community that literally unlimited money is trying to converge and destroy. Liberalism and christianity may just be too compatible, especially for women, to not make the jump when pressured by ALL OF SOCIETY to do so. But that last line is speculation, because I am allowed to think and posit whatever I want thankfully.

    Methinks ya need different strokes fo’ different folks. If you are going to design the best breeding goyim you need to determine who will control them in this hypothetical future besides small hats.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >certainly an agreeable, doubtless, trusting, merciful, conscientious, high IQ person sounds like the most destructive intra racial phenotype I can think of at the moment.

      That’s antisemitic.

      >So, if you aren’t disagreeable and suspicious I don’t really see how your kids stay conservative unless you live in an insular religious community that literally unlimited money is trying to converge and destroy.

      Hence the sheep/shepherds thing. Disagreeable people belong on the fringes of society, defending the borders and, ultimately, the frustrating normie retards those borders protect.

    • Mycroft Jones says:

      Your speculation about Christian women jumping ship is my lived and observed reality. Conservatives couldn’t conserve the bathroom; churches couldn’t even convince women to be virgins until marriage.

      • Aeoli Pera says:

        Yeah but your lived and observed wamen in reality are not true Scotsmen. You just have to join my extremely niche, ideologically racist Christianity which is actually both blue-pilled and not at all as common or trad as I’m going to pretend it is.

        Also Richard Spencer says Eastern Orthodoxy is based.

  4. Obadiah says:

    >Dutton video

    The ur-Neanderthals don’t really show us much evidence of revolutionary ingenious-type innovation, which is something that Polymath brought up and talked about in an earlier iteration of the Neanderhall. Do you think the fast life history traits and whatnot that Dutton talks about result from ur-Neanderthals combining with Cro-Mags* to produce the archetypal “Western European genius”?

    (*who I agree with Koanic were a hybrid speciation between archaic melonheads and some kind of greater ape, likely baboon)

    • Obadiah says:

      >Do you think the fast life history traits and whatnot that Dutton talks about

      ^I should really emphasize the “madness and neuroticism” that Dutton talks about, which seem to drive genius. This might be an evolutionarily adaptive byproduct of different hominid types hybridizing (see Tex calling most humans a ‘genetic house of horrors’)

      Melonhead/Eden project kicks off and spins up the Genetic Permutation Generation Station (aka Earth) starting with Cain acting the absolute fool

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >The ur-Neanderthals don’t really show us much evidence of revolutionary ingenious-type innovation, which is something that Polymath brought up and talked about in an earlier iteration of the Neanderhall. Do you think the fast life history traits and whatnot that Dutton talks about result from ur-Neanderthals combining with Cro-Mags* to produce the archetypal “Western European genius”?

      Almost certainly yes, however Tex is not wrong to point out that the archaic neanderthals are unfairly and instinctively libeled as stupid and uncreative. They may not have been as creative or intelligent as the original hybrids of big-group, high-abstract IQ cro-mags and small-group, extremely high-visuospatial IQ neanderthals, but they were almost certainly more clever on average than most modern humans in recorded history. I mean, just look at 100% homo sapiens sub-Saharan Africans.

      • Obadiah says:

        >Tex is not wrong to point out that the archaic neanderthals are unfairly and instinctively libeled as stupid and uncreative. They may not have been as creative or intelligent as the original hybrids of big-group, high-abstract IQ cro-mags and small-group, extremely high-visuospatial IQ neanderthals, but they were almost certainly more clever on average than most modern humans in recorded history.

        Yeah, I agree with all of that. They wouldn’t be “brilliant” in the way that emergently occurs when the big frontal is welded onto the big occ, but we can infer from their sheer brain size, physical characteristics, remains such as cave paintings/tools, and evolutionary environment (and therefore strategy) that they’d definitely be smarter than the average wypipo and a far cry from the laughable portrayal that a lot of scienmagistic-types like to support.

        • Obadiah says:

          Retroactive dehumanization and libel are the sublimated guilt of the murderer.

        • Obadiah says:

          >They wouldn’t be “brilliant” in the way that emergently occurs when the big frontal is welded onto the big occ

          Or deep eye sockets drilled into big melon (Isaac “Clip a Shilling and You’re in for a Killing” Newton looks like a paracas skull w/ deep eye sockets bored in)

  5. Obadiah says:

    Dutton is also confusing high AH with low conscientiousness

    • Obadiah says:

      Charlton does the same thing.

      • Aeoli Pera says:

        I don’t think that’s true, they’re only noting that: “According to Simonton, geniuses usually have a personality type characterized by moderately high Psychoticism; that is: a psychosis-/ dream-like mode of thinking; indifference to public opinion; moderately low Agreeableness/ Empathizing and moderately low Conscientiousness. This, according to Simonton, is usually combined with high Openness-Intellect (strongly associated with creativity), and high Neuroticism (in the case of artistic geniuses) and high Extraversion (in the case of scientific geniuses).” http://geniusfamine.blogspot.com/

        Further, these personality traits are inversely correlated, and you usually don’t see the necessary split in the subfactors of conscientiousness.

        • Obadiah says:

          I guess they’re not using the same definition of conscientiousness as Cooijmans, which is what I’m going off of. Their definition of conscientiousness seems to imply obedience, agreeableness and lack of independent-mindedness in addition to dependability, work ethic, self-control; etc while Cooijmans’ doesn’t.

          >Further, these personality traits are inversely correlated

          Yeah I think one of the tricks of the successful/productive genius is to balance his AH and his conscientiousness.

          Both of their models are actually incomplete/leaving stuff out.

          • Obadiah says:

            *balance his AH and his conscientiousness, which are always in tension with one another.

          • Aeoli Pera says:

            >I guess they’re not using the same definition of conscientiousness as Cooijmans, which is what I’m going off of.

            That’s correct, Cooijmans’s definition is entirely devoid of social mores, i.e. the typical iconoclast’s understanding of social responsibility minus social responsivity, despite that the shared root suggests they have more in common than the iconoclast would like (though less than the normie would instinctively assume).

            • Obadiah says:

              I basically think D-Murda and Yung Brucey are incorrect in their association of lack-of-independence-of-mind/obedience with conscientiousness, and think that these “narrow minded and obedient” traits are a consequence of low Associative Horizon rather than high Conscientiousness.

            • Obadiah says:

              Perhaps I will write them a strongly-worded letter.

            • Obadiah says:

              >and think that these “narrow minded and obedient” traits are a consequence of low Associative Horizon rather than high Conscientiousness.

              Itz kind of a chicken-and-egg type thing. Though Conscientiousness and AH tend to correlate inversely in a vacuum, I ultimately think that an autonomous acting mind can deliberately improve, develop and increase Conscientiousness without significantly sacrificing AH, such that all three traits can be present simultaneously–but this is possible because of conscientiousness’s improvability by an autonomous moral actor.

              This is to say that Conscientiousness is a moral choice as well as a biological trait while AH is like IQ in that its basically outside of someone’s control

              So because I’m not in a vacuum and CON is under the category of things I can deliberately improve, I can theoretically do so without sacrificing AH.

              So a lack of independence of mind is ultimately the consequence of a dearth of AH rather than the presence of CON. AH is basically a measure of someone’s independence of mind.

              Pretty rough, fuzzy and #theoretical and might not be worth much now because I’ve done such a poor job of clearly defining AH and CON.

              But the apparent paradox of AH vs CON traits in each person (or Lucifer vs Ahriman traits in each person) is basically resolved through the individual’s realization and deliberate enactment of his free will.

            • Aeoli Pera says:

              >So because I’m not in a vacuum and CON is under the category of things I can deliberately improve, I can theoretically do so without sacrificing AH.

              That’s the lesson and gameplan I’ve taken from Cooijmans. Despite Edenist protestations that I’ve sacrificed my AH at the altar of practicality I think I’ve entirely succeeded although the blog appears less interesting now that I don’t spend 8 hours on a single 1,000-word post as often as I did in 2015.

            • Obadiah says:

              It’s essentially the only viable course of action if you want to actually make shit happen and not spend your entire life navelgazing (not that there’s anything wrong with navelgazing for a while and figuring stuff out).

  6. Obadiah says:

    Also where is “greed” on the list of negative traits?

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