Soliciting red pilled science on Gypsies/Roma

I believe I have the psychology of Jews basically cracked (i.e. it’s Joaquin Phoenix’s Commodus in Gladiator), but in the meantime the turtle brain is becoming very interested in the Gypsies for comparison and contrast. Jews are basically Gypsies plus Judaism and a thousand years of intentionally breeding lawyers, which has had a lot of side effects like massively increasing average general factor of personality.

A quick search for “Gypsies study” reveals a lot of pozz and a couple of studies that look interesting. For example:


Data provided by the social sciences as well as genetic research suggest that the 8-10 million Roma (Gypsies) who live in Europe today are best described as a conglomerate of genetically isolated founder populations. The relationship between the traditional social structure observed by the Roma, where the Group is the primary unit, and the boundaries, demographic history and biological relatedness of the diverse founder populations appears complex and has not been addressed by population genetic studies.



Although far from systematic, the published information indicates that medical genetics has an important role to play in improving the health of this underprivileged and forgotten people of Europe. Reported carrier rates for some Mendelian disorders are in the range of 5 -15%, sufficient to justify newborn screening and early treatment, or community-based education and carrier testing programs for disorders where no therapy is currently available. To be most productive, future studies of the epidemiology of single gene disorders should take social organisation and cultural anthropology into consideration, thus allowing the targeting of public health programs and contributing to the understanding of population structure and demographic history of the Roma.

This sounds very similar to Jews, and suggests Jewish genetics may have the same “group of founder groups” structure. I have a sneaking suspicion that this is due at least as much to Epstein-like superbreeding cult leaders as to pogrom-like bottlenecks.

Here’s another that serves for contrast:


To illuminate findings of the survey of the health status of Gypsies and Travellers by exploring their health‐related beliefs and experiences.



The experience of poor health and daily encounters of ill health among extended family members were normalised and accepted. Four major themes emerged relating to health beliefs and the effect of lifestyle on health for these respondents: the travelling way; low expectations of health; self‐reliance and staying in control; fatalism and fear of death. These themes dominated accounts of health experience and were relevant to the experience. These themes add richness to the health status data and inform our understanding.

This is starkly different from the Jewish attitude toward health and the future, which is characterized by self-efficacy fueled by a religious fervor (Christians can think of this as the “health and wealth gospel” on steroids). That said, I’d be curious to know whether they have the fear of death in common with Gypsies, Boomers, etc. (their religious ethnonationalism and tendency to violent political terrorism suggests otherwise, but I’d want to confirm). As has been established previously on this blog, and counter to what Woody Allen would have you believe, Jews aren’t a bunch neurotic messes- given their unusually psychopathic average sexual attitude they’re better described as a bunch of Hunter Bidens. So it’s likely that the perception of Jewish hypochondria is half performative (“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”) and half due to the problem of self-reporting between groups with different averages (where e.g. Africans self-report as very high in conscientiousness and the Japanese self-report as very low).

Anyway, this is all to say that if you know of any red-pilled books, studies, etc. on Gypsies please drop me a line.

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6 Responses to Soliciting red pilled science on Gypsies/Roma

  1. Mycroft Jones says:

    Sir Richard Burton wrote a good red pilled book on the gypsies. And on the Jews. He and his wife mysteriously died before it could be published. The publisher redacted some key bits, saying they weren’t important. Modern dna evidence confirms what he figured out 150 years ago. Gypsies and Sikh are the same group. Also they form an intelligence network in every country.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      Perfect. Just what I was looking for. And, judging from the number of books Burton wrote about swords, the level of autism will make it an easy read for me.

  2. asdf says:

    >So it’s likely that the perception of Jewish hypochondria is half performative (“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”) and half due to the problem of self-reporting between groups with different averages (where e.g. Africans self-report as very high in conscientiousness and the Japanese self-report as very low).

    A much more parsimonious explanation would be that it is due to Jewish ritual hygiene, which has historically been stricter than that of most other nations. For example, before the 20th century and ubiquitous indoor plumbing, gentiles considered the Jewish practice of washing one’s hands before eating idiosyncratic (see the beginning of Mark 7). Hypochondria is often just health-related OCD taken up to 11, so it makes sense that a nation that has been following a strict hygienic code since at least the 7th century BC would have a higher average level of health anxiety and therefore more hypochrondriacs.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      Okay, that’s a great point. But how do you explain the notable lack of hygiene or sanitary practices in the Orthodox? It appears at first glance that the religious cleanliness rituals have taken on a purely symbolic character.

      • Mycroft Jones says:

        Hygiene degrades when a person is under stress. If you are in a time of war and your leadership is filling your head full of scary stories that the boogeyman is trying to kill you at every moment I could see hygiene slipping. I’ve noticed that the less neurotic a synagogue, the cleaner it is. So I believe part of this neurotic behavior is induced by The narrative that is put in their heads and continually reinforced.

        • Mycroft Jones says:

          Also if you believe in your soul that you were trying to screw someone over, that will create stress and a justifiable fear that you will be killed or hurt when the other party finds out. So this would also cause the neurotic behavior especially in the more secular people who aren’t really going on a religious narrative but they are big into the you know screw over all the outsiders.

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