C.S. Lewis, Holocaust denier

I’m surprised too, you’d think this would have come up by now.

In the last few years I have spent a great many hours in third-class railway carriages (or corridors) crowded with servicemen. I have shared, to some extent, the shock. I found that nearly all these men disbelieved without hesitation everything that the newspapers said about German cruelties in Poland. They did not think the matter worth discussion: they said the one word “Propaganda” and passed on. This did not shock me: what shocked me was the complete absence of indignation. They believe that their rulers are doing what I take to be the most wicked of all actions—sowing the seeds of future cruelties by telling lies about cruelties that were never committed. But they feel no indignation: it seems to them the sort of procedure one would expect.

This, I think, is disheartening. But the picture as a whole is not disheartening. It demands a drastic revision of our beliefs. We must get rid of our arrogant assumption that it is the masses who can be led by the nose. As far as I can make out, the shoe is on the other foot. The only people who are really the dupes of their favourite newspapers are the intelligentsia. It is they who read leading articles: the poor read the sporting news, which is mostly true. Whether you like this situation or not depends on your views. It is certainly hard on you if you are a Planner or a man with any panacea that demands a nation of united enthusiasts.

– C.S. Lewis, Private Bates

It’s hard to overstate the importance of C.S. Lewis to modern Christians. It’s comparable to MLK for Americans.

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71 Responses to C.S. Lewis, Holocaust denier

  1. ShadoHand says:

    The Holocaust happend. Period. The issue is the numbers are off, as they are with everything. The idiots seize on this and call you a Jew Lover. Its all so tiresome. Always has been, always will be.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      It’s not just the number that matters, it matters whether they were murdered or not.

      • Aeoli Pera says:

        “60 murdered”
        vs.
        “1 dead of typhus for lack of trucks carrying fresh produce at the end of a losing war”

        • LOADED says:

          autistic people laugh inappropriately anyways its one of their symptoms therefore i think if they are laughing at me im the one winning anyways.

      • ShadoHand says:

        They were. There were concentration camps and extermination camps. The extermination camps is where they were murdered.

        This image will have to do:

        I have a WW2 History Book with that map and many other numbers. The issue is well, most people are idiots and don’t want to beleive that it actually happened.

        Mainly because they cant think of the logistics of doing something like that. Most people, males really, not men, males, are brain dead drunken retarded Gamma Man Children obsessed with other people that cant look into anything and need Cuckthorities to tell them what to do.

        This is why nothing works anymore, because we no longer have baselines of logic to work from. Everyone is running around round robin with the nodes controlled by Authority Figures. If someone says something they look to the External Earhtly Authority Figure for Guidance. Rather then council. Its all so tiresome. At the same time they have been conditioned to only focus on the internal. C.S. Lewis wrote about Screwtape the demon telling his protege wormword to get the patient focused on this.

        Stoicism operates this way too. As does CBT. Its Gaslighting in the clinical definition of the term. It seeks to make it so external reality doesnt exist and God, Satan, Angels, Demons, Earhtly Rulers, Heads of State, FBI Agents, Cops, Teachers, Authority Figures at Work, Landlords, Parents, and Highly Complex Rule Systems are taken out of the equation to blame the individual for all his problems. Its childish, destructive, and Satanic.

        • Aeoli Pera says:

          > There were concentration camps and extermination camps.

          Then why are there no primary source documents? An undertaking of such magnitude requires enormous coordination.

        • Sturm Bringer says:

          Your book published by jew publishing house, pushed jew lies. Why did the good Dutchman’s population shrink and the vile jew’s grow during the period.

          When did ww2 start? “Judea declares war on Germany” 1933 Jewspaper headline(forget if the top headline or subordinate). All european jewry deserved to be executed for their part in ww1 alone!

          You are the type that if a “booook”, told you there were evil Germ-man corpse factories(ww1 lie) you would believe it, oh and do not forget bayoneting babies because thats what them darn Germ-mans do! Not, oh I dont know… art, music, machinery, crafts and culture aplenty. Nope war making( how many wars, just two, the ones that look curiously like encirclement by a pack of enemies.)

          Ps. Is your favorite holocaust bedtime tale, the electric frying pan, the gas van, the masturbated to death machines, the different jew(by country) different color smoke(purple for hungary, yellow for rumania or somesuch), human skin memorabilia, or some other diseased jew’s diseased brain’s little fancies?

  2. Robotnick says:

    What’s the context and when was this written?

    Are you sure it’s about the holocaust per se and not the invasion/occupation of Poland?

    I’m not emotionally invested either way but would like to understand that before I share this quote.

  3. LOADED says:

    Aeoli if youre a Holocaust denier you must be a retard. sorry but if you think you lost respect for me for what i did i lost a shit ton more here for you simply by you believing in something so stupid!

    also your claims Joe Biden is a pedophile a narcissist etc. are also deluded but you were right about Trump. :)

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      > Aeoli if youre a Holocaust denier you must be a retard.

      For the purposes of the OP I’m only claiming that C.S. Lewis was, which has nothing to do with you because you have no connection to modern Protestant Christianity.

      • LOADED says:

        okay fair enough.

        • LOADED says:

          ive asked you to share your beliefs with me and spiritual musings countless times….i dont know why youre so afraid to do so. if you are a believer telling someone about it thats on the outside wont hurt at all at least not from a rational perspective!

      • furor kek tonicus ( Britney Griner solution: Putin should send her to Singapore ... with ALL of her luggage ) says:

        LEWIS is *not* denying the Holocaust here. he is commenting on what he purports to have observed amongst the hoi polloi ( common soldiery in particular ) as a general attitude of cynicism and distrust of the Elites and the narratives which the Elites attempt to promulgate.
        .
        this is the particular exemplar he chose to demonstrate the larger points he was making in this essay that:
        a – the view the Elites have of the lower classes doesn’t conform much to the reality
        b – the cynicism of the rank and file soldier has been pretty consistent at least back to Shakespearean times and perhaps long before that
        c – the Elites are going to have a very difficult time Immanentizing the Eschaton when the attitude of the Proles ( who will be supplying the Labor and Production necessary to bring this about ) is pure cynicism and disbelief
        .
        CS actually hasn’t expressed his own personal opinion on the validity of the Holocaust at all in this essay. whether or not he expresses doubts elsewhere, i have no idea.

        • Aeoli Pera says:

          > CS actually hasn’t expressed his own personal opinion on the validity of the Holocaust at all in this essay.

          Yes he has. He’s agreeing with the rank and file soldier. That’s not the thesis of the essay, but it’s essential to the essay’s thesis that the rank and file soldier is correct.

        • LOADED says:

          Aeoli i dont care if a bunch of fruitcake autists laugh at me theyre autists and beneath me!

          NTs are not superior just me. autists are a scourge on humanity and will be exterminated.

          if i was a dictator i wouldnt go after any group of people except the autists. how relevant.

          • ShadoHand says:

            `autists are a scourge on humanity and will be exterminated.`

            Autists created everything good in the world. NTs just get drunk and listen to brain dead authority figures. Weve gone from 1 in 1000 to 1 in 44. Psychiatry is a pseudoscience.

    • furor kek tonicus ( guns don't kill people, Alec Baldwins kill people ) says:

      so you deny that they keep lowering the estimates of those killed in every supposed “concentration camp”? but still maintain the overall total 6 million Jews?
      .
      have you any decent explanation for why Jews were complaining of “6 million Jews murdered” for more than 50 years *before* WW2? you can look up articles in the NYT quoting these numbers which the Jews were using to complain about supposed eastern European and Russian pogroms from the 19th century.

      • ShadoHand says:

        `but still maintain the overall total 6 million Jews?`
        6 million is a rough estimate, or to put it bluntly a rhetorical device. Stop being an idiot. The Holocaust happened. Jews were murdered. This is why our side doesnt get anywhere. If anyone says “The holocaust happened.” Everyone attacks that person as a jew lover. Its ridiculous.

        The other side: “Questioning the holocaust numbers means you are a filthy Nazi scum and need to be cast out.”
        Our side “Questioning the holocaust numbers means that you are a Jew Lover and need to be cast out.”

        Its two sides of the same coin.

        Look your a midwit that cant understand complexity. Its like when something goes wrong on a highly complex computer system and you tell someone using it what should be the case. But its not, because the system is complex and some random thing on it broke. So instead of of going “Oh it could be a multitude of things. We will have to figure out what the problem is.” you just shout “You’re a liar. I dont like people like that. You are a bad person, and need to be expunged.”

        P.s. And yes Ive heard the argument that Caucasian just means from the Caucasus mountains. Caucasoid is a skull type. It is also a synonym of the Caucasian Race. You know, the White Race. Dealing with you Midwitted people is all so tiresome.

        P.s.s. Its going to be great watching the whole scathouse go up in flames becasue well idiots going to idiot.

        • Aeoli Pera says:

          > Look your a midwit that cant understand complexity.

          I bet he doesn’t even have a WW2 history book like you do.

        • LOADED says:

          Akuma you fucking fag you are the definition of midwit!

          Fucking fool!

          • ShadoHand says:

            `you are the definition of midwit!`

            Au contraire dear sir LOADED, you could live 1000 liftetimes and still not experience making an infinite number of observations that I have. Only to be called a mad man. Then years later seeing Science confirm said obersavtions. Its hard being a Genius. Its even harder being a midwit like you.

            P.s. The miracle of Jesus Christ, the only begotton Son of God, calming the storm confirms Quantum Entanglement.

            • LOADED says:

              Akuma you retard youre a homeless bum. youre the type of person i smoke weed with and make fun of to their faces for their “expert” analyses on things. you have accomplished nil in your life and you will continue to do so until you have your mental illnesses checked out.

    • Sturm Bringer says:

      Lol, Herr Goebbels was complaining about jews running free in Berlin in 1944(if memory serves) acccording to his diary by that David Irving person.

      Where are the Prussians!

      Exterminated.

      The Baltic Dutch

      Exterminated

      Volga Dutch

      Exterminated.

      Sudentenlanders

      Exterminated.

      Jews

      Loud, proud and in charge.

  4. Obadiah says:

    Sociopaths

    Clueless

    Losers

  5. LOADED says:

    Aeoli stop censoring me when you know i only tell you the truth. you look like a mix between a neanderthal and a baboon sadly!

  6. Night Owl says:

    This is pretty reasonable for C. S. Lewis the Anglo propaganda was overwrought garbage during WW1 and WW2. So the army would’ve had institutional knowledge of the tricks played during round one and the oldest NCOs would have seen it in person. Also it’s funny to watch people’s programing get triggered to irrationally support the real ruling class.

  7. LOADED says:

    Aeoli you are a cuck! Dont deny it!

  8. Robotnick says:

    Is LOADED that ************* guy that got banned from the discord? LOL.

  9. LOADED says:

    Aeoli i thought you had a strict no doxxing policy but when it comes to me you just bend the rules….like you did through our entire friendship.

    that is the real reason i have no respect for you nor never had any trust in you to begin with!

  10. Sturm Bringer says:

    The jew was not righteously executed in ww2, nor was their a plan in Dutchland to do so. Holocaust or “burnt offering” was the suffering of the Deutschefolk not the vile jews. Like usual the lying jew projects and inverts reality. Anyone who thinks differently is bigoted, or wicked

    The quote of Lewis makes me suspect he wished the poor were more easily led by the lying newspapers.

  11. Sturm Bringer says:

    C.S Lewis the maggot layer. Jew wife Lew.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      Remember how I said you make me want to oppose white nationalists because you’re personally repulsive? You’re doing it again.

      • LOADED says:

        Aeoli you dumbo you should oppose white nationlists regardless. white nationalism is the worst ideology in the history of humanity. you are the case and point of that.

      • Sturm Bringer says:

        Politeness wins no wars. Jews say far worse about our kind than I have said above.

        If politeness won wars Dutchland would have won both wars and the South would be free.

  12. aiaslives says:

    Aeoli can’t you just ban Mini Bin Laden? Reading his comments is quite legitimately a waste of time, there’s nothing good there. Any and all uppity, stink-mouthed people that can’t outclass GPT-3 should be (castrated and) sent to the salt mines forever.

    Controversial opinion but I like the OTHER guy (who’s also b& from the discord) that posted under his real name more than this guy.

  13. what says:

    Why do you keep Loaded around? A sense of charity?

    It’d be interesting to know what sort of thought processes these servicemen had. Did they expect the lie to mean nothing in the end? Or did they expect that it would eventually be cleared up, by the expertise of people they believe to be more knowledgeable and conscientious than them in these kinds of subjects? Or did the smearing of the character of other nations affect them less, since, of course, it wasn’t their own but instead their enemy’s? If it was written in 1944 then it could reasonably be conceived as nothing but propaganda.

    Why did he expect them to have any other sentiment? Obviously, because he’s a very meticulously Christian thinker. Outside of my pointless questions, it would be better for Christians not to label C.S Lewis a holocaust denier. Although more than that, there’s a lot of ambiguity with calling him a holocaust denier with just this information, as it sounds like he’s finding the idea of (obviously?/damning?) propaganda against even enemies to be disagreeable, rather than working with any tangible facts or historical knowledge. How could he know?

  14. ShadoHand says:

    @Loaded

    `youre a homeless bum.`

    I actually routinely work 60 hours a week. I refuse to rent an apartment and live around assholes like you and deal with shit for brains landlords. Despite always paying my rent Ive been illegally evicted. But people with warrants were not. And yes I have proof of this, which you will just handwave away.

    And mental illness doesnt exist. You want to know why I cant accomplish anything of great value. Because I’m stuck dealing with people like you on a daily basis that cause impossible problems and are too stupid to realize they are sabotaging the people around them.

    And frankly it is my not so humble opinion, and extremely professional opinion, that all Narcissists (Like LOADED) should be eradicated from the face of the earth.

  15. Emmerich W says:

    What made me realize the whole thing was fake was this: Being a history buff, I read histories written by men whose lives were contemporary with the war. Shirer, Nevins/Commager, Churchill, those kind of guys. All of these men hated the Reich and had every reason to say the absolute worst about it. Yet the Holocaust was never mentioned in any of their works on WWII. Not a one of them. If it had happened, rather than being a post facto invention of Allied propaganda, it would have appeared in histories of the period.

    No need to get into all the rest of the falsehoods and forgeries, the which are multitudinous.

    PS I see there is an awful lot of Jewish or shabbos goy disinfo being shared here.

    • ShadoHand says:

      `PS I see there is an awful lot of Jewish or shabbos goy disinfo being shared here.`

      No. https://www.cchr.org/documentaries/psychiatry-an-industry-of-death/psychiatry-the-men-behind-the-holocaust.html

      • Sturm Bringer says:

        I have studied the second world war for nearly two decades, taken both sides and third party accounts into consideration and arrived at the truth as can best be reconstructed that the Big Pogrom did not occur, the Holocaust happened to the Dutch(Germans) and japs as well as limitedly to other europeans. The old saying stands true “the jew cries out as he strikes you.”

        And your response? The industry which pushes drugs onto innocent children said “naw-uh”.

        • ShadoHand says:

          `The industry which pushes drugs onto innocent children said “naw-uh”.`
          Um. Thats CCHR. And those are Anti-Psychiatrists. People that want to abolish it. Some of them Jews.

          And what about the American Holocaust?

          `I have studied the second world war for nearly two decades`

          And Psychiatry would try and genocide you for that. So again what about the American Shoah?

  16. sigh says:

    > “Why do you keep him around?”

    Honestly, I won’t name anyone publicly, but I feel this way about several people here at this point. Aeoli has far more tolerance for people’s toxicity than I ever will, it seems. Oh well.

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      > I feel this way about several people here at this point.

      I don’t reply to those requests because it’s hard to do so in a sensitive enough way in the time I have for comments. There’s typically less of a difference in toxicity levels than people imagine.

      • LOADED says:

        Aeoli would say im toxic but thats because im not white and shtuff. he only has sympathies for his race something i had to learn the hard way.

        he took advantage of many aspects of my good heart and sold it to a bunch of Jews for 30 or so shekels. for that i do not forgive nor forget what he did!

    • aiaslives says:

      >here
      Does that only refer to this blog?

      Comments under Aeoli’s posts have been total shit ever since he left the discord server.

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