Topic: Climate change as a social experiment in purely extrinsic meme religion.
Extrinsic religion means you don’t actually believe it but you signal that you do for some external benefit like being in a social club.
Also, we know climate change is a meme religion that no one seriously believes in because shopping data shows that climate change people buy the same cheap shit as everyone else when they believe it’s anonymous, but they buy climate-friendly stuff when they think people will know.
I’m getting that from an old Jolly Heretic with Michael Woodley but I haven’t been able to track down the study.
Might as well try that right now…
“Social crowding is a common social situation, such as crowded supermarkets and shopping malls in big cities. It is also an important research variable that affects consumers’ psychology and behavior (Jang et al., 2015). It’s a common phenomenon that people will be in a crowded social environment when buying green products. According to market performance, consumers seem more willing to buy green products in the situation of high social crowding. For example, in crowded auto shows, new energy, and other environmentally friendly vehicles are often the main theme (Sohu, 2020). Similarly, in the crowded market during the holiday, some low-carbon and green products are especially favored by consumers (Xu, 2010). The more crowded the store, the better green products sell (Li, 2014). So, what impact will social crowding have on consumers buying green products? What is its internal mechanism?…
…Study 1 found that social crowding will increase consumers’ preference for green products. Study 2 demonstrated that safety needs mediate the relationship between social crowding and consumers’ preference for green products. Study 3 clarified the impact of social crowding on the preference for products is only significant in green products. Study 4 proved the positive relationship between social crowding and consumers’ preference for green products is more likely to occur for introverted consumers rather than extraverted consumers.”
The main thing is, we’re clearly entering a new era of greater religiosity due to increased stress, which predicts the creation of new cults, but we’re doing this weird thing where we create cults that even the followers don’t believe in.
BLM, Covid, fraudulent elections, and clean energy being the most obvious. [Ed: It would be interesting to disambiguate the levels at which Q-anon people believe/don’t believe.]
I predict a rise in psychosis in response. Fake belief doesn’t cut it for long.
Actual factual psychosis I mean, as in schizophrenia.
that would be an interesting thing to track, and i suspect it would be part of a general suite of mental illnesses increasing in occurence
more generally, i would suggest the mental stress in this sort of mental divergence is going to express itself in all kinds of disturbing ways
i also wonder if the mental effort involved is going to take away energy that might otherwise have been used for genuine intellectual achievement
of course, there are a lot of reasons why everyone seems to be slowly getting dumber, but god knows we don’t need any more wood on that fire
“i also wonder if the mental effort involved is going to take away energy that might otherwise have been used for genuine intellectual achievement”
I imagine this is covered in Human Accomplishment somewhere.
Stereotypically intellectual achievement is highest in the third quarter of a society’s rise and fall cycle.
Speaking for myself, I believe I would have been far, far more intellectually productive if I didn’t have to spend all of my time navigating this bizarre welfare system called employment.
And that bizarre system is a symptom of mental illness.
That said, my intellectual productivity would have been muted and not particularly creative in nature. I may have ended up a relatively untalented mathematician somewhere.
Well, I suppose I only did math because I thought it would lead to employment (ha!), what with all the lies and confusion in this bizarre system, and would have gone into philosophy otherwise.
So there you go, I would have been a relatively untalented philosopher somewhere.
As is I’m a relatively talented freakshow panoply of half-baked ideas with a real spark of genius in there somewhere.
But not very productive on account of time constraints.
For starters, who even has the time to read a book these days?
At least the text-to-speech in epub readers is excellent.
i’m a proud member of the audiobook master race now
put ’em on when you’re driving at 2x or 2.5x speed and you can burn through your reading list like crazy
12 BOOKS A MONTH AAAAAAAAA
^the audiobook at 2.5x speed, but i won’t stop if you want to ues that multiplier on the speed limit as well
I’ve moderated my audiobook supremacy somewhat. The main problem is you can’t read technical books that way, and reading with your eyes takes practice, so I also do my entertainment reading the old way. But audiobooks are definitely my preference for popsci and similarly fluffy nonfiction.
Any thoughts on the prospects for meme religion?
It’s funny, the dissident right has been saying for years “We need religion because PRAGMATISM” and now we have all these pragmatic religions.
in a word, high
of course, the issue is that these aren’t very pragmtic because they don’t actually guide human behavior to actionable ends
One thing we don’t have though is church attendance for these religions.
Because gathering is illegal.
can’t have the peasants getting organized, they might actually do something
Actually illegal in the case of Covid, but I just mean in general we can’t have young men forming bands.
Still though, there appears to be a fairly good appetite for purely consumerist extrinsic signaling religions.
Watch Netflix, tweet quotes, get likes.
Just as many are happy to live without religion, it appears many are happy to be religious without meaning.
It’s just as curious to see people engaging in the same religious persecutions and rituals and so on in the absence of belief.
perhaps it ties back to the lack of and need for excitement we discussed earlier
but since we have evidence of people carrying out religious persecutions, we see the potential for cults to start carrying out real-world change
the real white-pill is that you too can start a cult and get shit done
Maybe the real red pill is that cults and tribalism are the same thing.
I don’t want to be in a cult. But maybe there’s no other choice.
Material scarcity means you have to get along with people even if they’re out of their fucking minds.
>tired: we live in a society
>wired: we embody a cult
“Material scarcity means you have to get along with people even if they’re out of their fucking minds.” – yes
weirdos of the internet, please take note
Very poastable conclusion.