Books for fathers indoctrinating their children in morals and virtues

Disclaimer: While I think the following advice is sensible, it’s written in the absence of parenting experience.

A dad’s responsibilities to his children, in order of importance, are:

1. Prevent catastrophic outcomes of all sorts, ranked by severity and probability
2. Demonstrate a healthy model for how a man ought to act toward his wife
3. Demonstrate a more general model of masculine virtues
4. Indoctrinate the children with morals and virtues (this includes explicitly prescribing the indoctrination your wife is giving them, and verifying she’s done so by talking to them)

Edit: A big one I forgot is choosing your children’s peer group so they’ll make friends from a pre-selected pool of kids, so you don’t have to constantly select out bad apples.

I can argue for the ordering of these if need be. This post provides reference material for the latter.

Morality has three forms, again in order of importance:

1. God’s approval
2. One’s approval of oneself
3. The approval of other people

Virtue, in the original sense, means high general ability to get what you want (virtus means “strength”), and corresponds to having many of the things that the best people have. A more modern definition would be living in accordance with your ideal self-concept, or “the best conceivable future version of your current self”. The most important virtues that can be trained (i.e. not IQ) are:

1. Attitude
2. Judgment
3. Cognitive empathy (particularly self-knowledge)
4. Etiquette (i.e. the study of situationally appropriate behavior)
5. Conscientiousness
6. Rigor

Here are the top books I’d pick to read to your children to accomplish as much in these categories as possible in the least amount of time:

1. The Bible (focusing on age and temperament-appropriate sections)
2. The Chronicles of Narnia
3. Lord of the Rings
4. Pilgrim’s Progress (not the sequel, which is poor)
5. Maximum Achievement
6. The Champion’s Mind (I’ve heard that Mindset by Carol Dweck is also good for this but I haven’t read it)
7. How to Win Friends and Influence People

If you’re looking for more, here are the categories I’d recommend drawing from:

Fairly tales, particularly dark fantasy (e.g. Grimm’s, Lovecraft)
Books of proverbs (these are very good for training judgment)
Books boiled down for GUToW
Pre-Boasian anthropology, especially emphasizing methods of analytical people-watching
Other pop-sci books on how attitude/motivation/etc. actually work (e.g. Drive, The Dopamine Handbook)

If there’s interest I may put together book lists for each type of morality and virtue, but I expect this is already quite a lot to ask.

For spergy children in particular, I’d recommend getting Tony Attwood’s books on the subject after reading my intro to Asperger’s post and the links in it. Also a good bit of advice I once saw is to find books about your location for tourists that explain the local etiquette, customs, and history.

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31 Responses to Books for fathers indoctrinating their children in morals and virtues

  1. William Owlson says:

    I always wanted for my kids to be raised by my wife, her parents, and give them an abundance of people to connect to in their life.

    This is related to the first topic because I completely agree with your definition of virtue and feel I inspired your idea of it if I do have the honor of taking credit for such a prestigious accomplishment.

    I would urge my children to read Harry Potter at a young age, the Old Testament, and the Magic Treehouse books.

    There may be many others but I’d let my children find those out for themselves.

    • Schrödinger's Psych Evaluation says:

      No offense, but why Harry Potter?

      • bicebicebice says:

        “No offense, but why Harry Potter?”

        Harry rejects the chingchong choo chang in favor of a white aryan girl he even later marries and breeds white children with , this is principled (especially in the internet-era of autistic misnotions of miscegenation) and based&redpilled along the same lines that NGE is the best animu because the director explicitly tells weebs to stop being autistic retards.

        The series also ended before socia media took off, so you just know how that would have played out in the current year… HP is a fun experience in ghost writing, plagiarism and the subsequential FAIL of everything jewkuck rolling slapped the HP brand on after the main story was milked to a fin for all it was worth. HP is basically a meme, many youtubers make fun of it and it is fun. There are no fun LOTR spoofs because lotr is not fun in that sense for kids nor for anyone really. It is just correct, just and important. Like the Bible.

        LOTR follows a straight line with no bumps in the road or quality ups and downs because it was written by a white man whereas hp… it is possible that a really autistic child might actually go ballistic reading hp because of the ghost pacing which would indicate a very high IQ, meaning LOTR would actually be the better book option. A smart adult would find hp more entertaining than a child for different reasons. LOTR is very “contained” and mature whereas hp is more open and all over the place.

        hp = marry a white girl and have white children also memes
        lotr = watch out for jews and praise the true king very biblical in a sense praise jesus

    • William Owlson says:

      Lots of meaningful emotions came from that book, at least for me. It’s a classic struggle between good and evil, is intricately written for children that age, and has a lot of really good layering and story-writing if you read it through.

      • Schrödinger's Psych Evaluation says:

        Fair enough. If it has emotional significance for you, then it makes sense that you’d want to share it with your children. I was never really into Harry Potter myself.

  2. Mycroft Jones says:

    Recommend Aesop’s fables. Lord of the Rings is fun, but even if your IQ is high, you can’t expect your kids to have high enough IQ to read it. Even if they want to. Regression to the mean is a harsh reality. LoTR is not something I’d make kids slog through; they either enjoy it or they don’t.

  3. bicebicebice says:

    This is a good post, but it also gave me a sensible chuckle because i’m getting a mental image of “PUA for 5 year olds” but this time the victim is all of society. heh…

    Here is a serious question; how do you hand over the books in question to your prodigy? It seems a much moore simple task to simply have ten children and hope for three of them being naturally inclined to everything you wrote aka just born that way. You know what I mean?
    I mean a natural assburger will just gravitate towards LOTR etc etc. And if you have a demon child, you are just postponing the inevitable and learning the criminal more tricks up his sleeve until the mask finally slips.
    That is the only thing the west as a whole should take away from Edenism, ending the genetic lottery, seeing as CHYNA were unironically the only ones interested in what Tex had to say, in regards to creating a stable society. heh…

    numsayn?

    • Aeoli Pera says:

      >Here is a serious question; how do you hand over the books in question to your prodigy?

      You read the books to them. I’ll add that to the OP.

      • bicebicebice says:

        But that implies a very low age..! Wouldn’t that be a waste? At least downgrade to a Tintin album or something.

        “7. How to Win Friends and Influence People” Now i’m getting a very serious chuckle of imagining a 3 year old being read this by his father. Is this Aeoli Pera talking or is it MM? :D

        “GUTOW for the aspiring two year old, get it now”. Then again if your childs name is Sidis why not.

        • Aeoli Pera says:

          First of all, I don’t see why not, secondly I don’t believe you should stop reading to your kids until 7 or so. It’s an easy way to talk to them for more than 30 seconds per day (cause white man gotta be above average).

    • William Owlson says:

      Thanks for the much needed laugh. Can you give me a few details about the book? Sounds interesting, though obviously the writer is a bit of a troll. Let’s see if he holds up as being one or redeems himself, shall we.

      • Obadiah says:

        Long story short: Tricknology 101

        Make sure to get the very necessary and needed second edition, as 1E apparently contains several factual errors.

  4. William Owlson says:

    This is not a virtue, and may be the opposite of one, but always speak in a way that does lend credence to any belief or opinion you might have or hold.

    I know this is a contradiction since I’m doing it here but always rely on objectivity rather than emotions to guide you to an answer because emotions can be deceiving.

  5. LOADED says:

    Cancel the other reply, Aeoli, this is what I meant to say:

    This is not a virtue, and may be the opposite of one, but always speak in a way that does NOT lend credence to any belief or opinion you might have or hold.

    I know this is a contradiction since I’m doing it here but always rely on objectivity rather than emotions to guide you to an answer because emotions can be deceiving.

    • Schrödinger's Psych Evaluation says:

      Adopt a neutral point of view if you intend only to inform. If you intend to trigger a specific judgement, use those magical LARPing skills with the appropriate amount of subtlety.

  6. Dumbo says:

    Why is Mr. Aglioli not posting anymore?

    • bicebicebice says:

      The REAL posting is done over at AeoliPera.cn, the CHYNESE bought out Edenism. It is not “selling out” when you get a lifetime supply of cigarettes and shrimp. A man’s gotta eat and smoke

  7. bicebicebice says:

    Having seen this so many times now;

    “A dad’s responsibilities to his children, in order of importance, are:

    1. Prevent catastrophic outcomes of all sorts, ranked by severity and probability
    2. Demonstrate a healthy model for how a man ought to act toward his wife
    3. Demonstrate a more general model of masculine virtues
    4. Indoctrinate the children with morals and virtues (this includes explicitly prescribing the indoctrination your wife is giving them, and verifying she’s done so by talking to them)

    Edit: A big one I forgot is choosing your children’s peer group so they’ll make friends from a pre-selected pool of kids, so you don’t have to constantly select out bad apples.”

    I “that is good” more and more. Looks like another win for the Amish and since none of that exists in the west…. but still good. The problem isn’t the implementaiton the problem is that there are no takers.

  8. Heaviside says:

    Does anyone know if Aeoli is okay?

  9. Heaviside says:

    Just realized he must be approving comments.

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